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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ira,<div><br></div><div>Short-lived or not, capturing those states (and eventually, fax-modem-ringing for FaxIn?) allows us to report events/traps that clients can use to present/update UI.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 2013-06-28, at 1:19 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Daniel,<br><br></div>Perhaps we should add "fax-modem-dialing" as a state reason (for the <br>Service and the FaxModem subunit) - but it's a very short-lived state<br>
</div><div>to be capturing in printer-state-reasons.<br></div><div><br></div>It's similar to the original IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911) "connecting-to-device",<br>but that one's only intended for passing a whole Job to the output-device,<br>
</div>not just the Job data (i.e, the FaxOut document content).<br><br></div><div>BTW - I think we should NOT add "fax-modem-training", because it's<br>a *very* short-lived state.<br><br>Mike - we'll have to register this (and any other) new Printer MIB Alerts<br>
</div></div>w/ IANA for the Printer MIB TC (as well as in the IPP Registry).<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Manchala, Daniel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com" target="_blank">Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mike,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes, one of the states we would like to have is ‘fax-out-modem-dialing’ or ‘fax-modem-dialing’.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Daniel.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [IPP] Apple has reviewed the IPP FaxOut specification and has comments<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Follow-up comments based on the feedback we have gotten so far:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Section 8.2 does not mention that the 'fax-modem-xxx' keywords are defined in PWG 5107.3.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Section 8.2 does not define the equivalent of the 'connecting-to-defice' value from "printer-state-reasons". Should we define <span style="font-family:"Courier New"">keyword(s) to describe this and/or the following intermediate states: Dialing,
Answered, Training, and Connected?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Section 12.2 should not re-register PWG 5107.3 keyword values for "job-state-reasons".<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Section 13.1 is missing a reference to PWG 5107.3.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono","serif"">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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