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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The following are comments from Kyocera on IPP Faxout specification.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Line 362. 4.1.4 Job History "IPP FaxOut Jobs MUST be retained for a minimum of 300 seconds."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">is actually difficult because of limitation of real memory capacity. A possible alternative is "IPP FaxOut MUST retains for a minimum
of xxx Jobs."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Line 406 Table 2 - Required Printer Description Attributes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">number-of-retries-default PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">number-of-retries-supported (note 6) PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This 2 items should not be included because there are individual upper limits on retry number in each countries legally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For example, the following are from FCC68, line standard of North America:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">§ 68.318 Additional limitations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(b) Registered terminal equipment with automatic dialing capability. (1) Automatic dialing to any individual number is limited to two
successive attempts. Automatic dialing equipment which employ means for detecting both busy and reorder signals shall be permitted an additional 13 attempts if a busy or reorder signal is encountered on each attempt. The dialer shall be unable to re-attempt
a call to the same number for at least 60 minutes following either the second or fifteenth successive attempt, whichever applies, unless the dialer is reactivated by either manual or external means. This rule does not apply to manually activated dialers that
dial a number once following each activation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Line 406 Table 2 - Required Printer Description Attributes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">printer-fax-modem-info PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">printer-fax-modem-name PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">printer-fax-modem-number PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This 3 items seems to be unnecessary and should be deleted, No user needs to see this kind of modem info.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Line 406 Table 2 - Required Printer Description Attributes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">retry-interval-default (note 6) PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">retry-interval-supported (note 6) PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">retry-timeout-default (note 6) PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">retry-timeout-supported (note 6) PWG 5100.FAX<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This 3 items should not be included, Some countries assign a restriction for automatic retry interval in consideration for avoiding
the overload of their switching devices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Line 656 7.2.6 retry-time-out (integer(1:MAX))<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What is the difference between "7.2.6 retry-time-out (integer(1:MAX))" and "7.2.5 retry-interval (integer(1:MAX))"? what is the reason
both items are needed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Lida<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:pwg-announce-bounces@pwg.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 01, 2013 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> PWG Announcements Inc.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pwg-Announce] PWG Last Call of IPP FaxOut Service (05/01/13 to 06/07/13)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">All,<br>
<br>
[This PWG Last Call starts today Wednesday May 1, 2013 and ends Friday June 7, 2013 at 10pm US PST.]<br>
<br>
This is the formal announcement of the PWG Last Call for the IPP FaxOut Service specification, located at:<br>
<br>
<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130501.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfaxout10-20130501.pdf</a><br>
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All required attributes and values defined in this document have been prototyped by Apple and/or other vendors. The IPP WG has completed extensive review of the various revisions of this document and an IPP WG last call.<br>
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The PWG Process/3.0 requires that a quorum (30%) of PWG voting members must acknowledge a PWG Last Call (with or without comments), before any document can progress to PWG Formal Vote. This PWG Last Call is NOT a Formal Vote but it DOES require your review acknowledgment.<br>
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HOW TO RESPOND<br>
<br>
Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:<br>
Subject: <Company Name> has reviewed the IPP FaxOut specification and has [no] comments<br>
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WHERE TO SEND YOUR RESPONSE<br>
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Please send your response to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with '@'):<br>
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ipp "at" pwg "dot" org (IPP WG mailing list - you must be subscribed!)<br>
blueroofmusic "at" gmail "dot" com (Ira McDonald, IPP WG Co-Chair)<br>
ptykodi "at" tykodi "dot" com (Paul Tykodi, IPP WG Co-Chair)<br>
msweet "at" apple "dot" com (Michael Sweet, IPP WG Secretary and IPP FaxOut Editor)<br>
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Note that you must be subscribed to the IPP WG mailing list to send email there - otherwise your email will be silently discarded.<br>
<br>
Please do NOT simply reply to this note on the PWG-Announce list.<br>
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Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at:<br>
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<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span><a href="http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf">http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">_________________________________________________________<br>
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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