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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Strange that we have held ourselves hostage to this odd use of the term for so long without anyone checking on it. I think the use of ‘coloring’ needed to be explained at least once to anyone coming across it in this context. But then, the meaning of ‘filtering’ would need to be explained too. Actually, coloring would not be a bad term if it were not being applied to printers, which all quite literally do coloring. Take this as a vote for filtering.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ira McDonald<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 18, 2012 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b> ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] Coloring, Coloring: Wherefore Art Thou?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Mike,<br><br>I agree with replacing "coloring" with the standard "filtering" term.<br><br>I found coloring in a lot of minutes, but also couldn't find it in the<br>IETF or early PWG IPP specs.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira (buried in TCG meetings this week)<br><br><br clear=all>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3333FF'>http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</span></a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br>Temporary Cabin *** 2012 only *** 906-494-2523<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have gotten more feedback on the continued use of the term "Coloring" in IPP specifications, and the reference back to 2911 as the reason for continuing its confusing existence.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thus far I have gone along with this reference - I remember us using the term when IPP/1.0 and 1.1 were being hammered out so naturally we must have used it in the spec, right? But when one of my colleagues actually went looking for the term being used in 2911 she couldn't find it. And then I went digging...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So, as far as I can tell, we have *never* used the term "coloring" in an IETF RFC for IPP. I also could not find the term used in ISO DPA. The only place we have used it is in IPP JPS3 (now published) and IPP Everywhere (pending posting for Formal Vote).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I also did a search of the mailing list archives and found several uses of the term, but I don't see it in any of the drafts (other than JPS3 and Everywhere)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So, can anyone point me to the origins of the term? Given the number of complaints about this in the past (even for JPS3), the obscure usage, and the apparent lack of precedent, I would prefer to use "filtering" (as requested on several occasions) instead of "coloring" in IPP Everywhere.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>__________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>-- </span><br><span class=hoenzb>This message has been scanned for viruses and </span><br><span class=hoenzb>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is </span><br><span class=hoenzb>believed to be clean. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div><br />--
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