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<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Randy and Daniel,</div><div><br></div><div>I agree my wording for the client requirements still needs some polish - toss it up to writing it up late at night... How about:</div><div><br></div><div> Clients MUST support DNS-SD and/or WS-Discovery.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>(the math geek in me likes the intersection version below... :)<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 2012-08-21, at 12:55 AM, Daniel Dressler <<a href="mailto:danieru.dressler@gmail.com">danieru.dressler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>As a random bystander I can confirm that "one of X and Y" sounds a bit odd. Although the context does make it clear.<br><br>How about "Clients MUST support either DNS-SD or WS-Discovery or both" to eliminate any final confusion with English's exclusive or.<br>
<br>While I'm being usless let me also suggest another wording "The intersection between the set of client's supported protocols and the set {DNS-SD, WS-Discovery} must not be the empty set."<br><br>Daniel<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/8/20 Randy Turner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com" target="_blank">rturner@amalfisystems.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div> i think I understand the compromise, although I would have worded 1b and 2b a little different<div><br></div><div>Clients MUST support either DNS-SD or WS-Discovery….</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's just a different use of a contraction</div><div><br></div><div>"…one of DNS-SD AND WS-Discovery" seemed to use an AND contraction which implied both - someone might inadvertently parse this in a way we didn't expect….although I got the gist of the compromise.</div>
<div><br></div><div>R.</div><div><br><div><div><div class="h5"><div>On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:16 PM, William A Wagner wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I think this is a practical and reasonable compromise. From at least my perspective, this does not put an unreasonable additional burden on printers while making potentially easier for clients to achieve and claim compliance.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bill Wagner<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Michael Sweet<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, August 20, 2012 9:42 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[IPP] IPP Everywhere and "The Great Compromise"<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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All,<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
We discussed the PWG Last Call comments received thus far at today's IPP WG conference call. Two of the comments concerned the client requirements to support DNS-SD for discovery and both PWG Raster and JPEG for document formats. After over an hour of spirited debate, the following "great compromise" was proposed to resolve the last call comments:<u></u><u></u></div>
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1. Discovery:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
a. Printers MUST support both DNS-SD and WS-Discovery (adds WS-Discovery)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
b. Clients MUST support at least one of DNS-SD and WS-Discovery (Clients can choose amongst the two required protocols)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">2. Document Formats:<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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a. Printers MUST support both JPEG and PWG Raster (no change)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
b. Clients MUST support at least one of JPEG and PWG Raster (relaxes conformance - previously a Client had to support both)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">
<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Please comment on the proposed changes.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:'Andale Mono',serif">_________________________________________________________<br>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<u></u><u></u></span></div></div>
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