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<html><head><base href="x-msg://849/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Glen,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the comments; we can discuss these at the F2F in some detail, but some quick comments are inline...</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; ">Mike, a few comments for consideration<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>1.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 190+ --- Section 2.3 on terminology is a table in other PWG specification. A table format makes it easy to read.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>We've never used tables in IPP specifications; will bring this up for discussion at the F2F.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>2.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 191 --- I thought that “coloring” as adding or assigning attributes values; typically by “discovery” of attributes from a document-format. In fact the term in only used on line 484 and could easily be dropped and remove any confusion.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>"Coloring" comes from RFC 2911, so I'd prefer not to omit or change it at this point.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>3.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 192 --- The term “direct imaging” is not used in the document and it also seems we are inventing new terminology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>4.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 201 --- The term “indirect imaging” is not used in the document and it also seems we are inventing new terminology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>5.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 206 --- Service seems to be ambiguous. For this specification, isn’t Service a Print Service? If the definition is trying to define “Service” in a totally generic sense then any use of the term Service needs an adjective to name the Service. I.e. Print Service, Print Client Service, Print Transform Service; but Service alone not descriptive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>6.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 209 --- The term “Visible Device” is not used in the document and it also seems we are inventing new terminology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>7.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 210 --- “Visible/Visibility” is “access/accessibility” and should not depend upon “direct/indirect” communication, How would the Client even know or care. Again, we seem to be inventing new terms.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>These come from the common use case document at the cost of many weeks worth of discussions...</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>8.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 219 --- How does existing protocols or schema do any kind “… auto-configuration of imaging devices”. It might configure an imaging device but not auto-configure.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>This refers to auto-configuration of host drivers, not auto-configuration of the imaging device itself.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>9.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 229 --- HTTP 1.1 already supports message chunking; did you have some specific reason for stating “with chunking” in this rationale?</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>13 year of bad IPP implementations layered on top of HTTP/1.0 masquerading as HTTP/1.1.</div><div><br></div><div>(similar language is in IPP/2.0)</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>10.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 235 --- The “minimal file format” should be the “minimal print format” or “minimal print-content format” since a PWG Raster may never be a file.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>I could go with "minimal document format"; as for the file vs. stream argument, let's not go there (that is an implementation detail)</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>11.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 236 --- There seems to be no value to the words “color and grayscale” since PWG raster support more color format that just color and grayscale. I suggest removing the words.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>We need to say something about the fact that it supports different kinds of color; "color and grayscale" gets the point across without being overly technical here.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>12.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 239 --- There seems to be no value to the words “color and grayscale” since PWG raster support more color format that just color and grayscale. I suggest removing the words.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>I assume you mean PDF supports more color formats, but my point above stands.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>13.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 244 --- I suggest changing “photographic” to “bitmap”</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>JPEG = Joint Photographic Experts Group. JPEG is used for photos. Image is usually == Bitmap.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>14.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 258 --- I believe in the sentence “Printer selection is part of most Service use cases”, the word “Service” should be removed or replaced with “printing”. The word “Service” is ambiguous and confusing. </span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>We don't want to rewrite everything for IPP Everywhere 2.0, and this was changed based on feedback during the last review at the August 2011 F2F...</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>15.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 260 --- How can a “Logical Printer” be a “Scan Service”; perhaps you meant a “Print Service”</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>This change was specifically requested; let's talk about this at the F2F.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>16.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 261 --- I recommend putting quotes around “Selection Using a Directory Service” and “Selection Using Properties” to denote they are title of sections.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>17.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 265 --- I suggest changing the line to read “For all of the following use-cases, a Printer or Print Service must be accessible to the Client to be selectable.”</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>This is the wording we agreed to at the last Common Use Case BOF...</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>18.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 267 --- Section 3.2.1.1 --- This use-case should be removed. Why is this section a use-case for IPP? It does imply or infer any requirement for IPP-Everywhere. It attempts to define the requirement and operations of a Print Client(!!!) and this specification does not define this type Client operations that are not IPP related.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>It highlights the need for geo-location and organizational information, among other conditions that might be used to select the last used printer.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>19.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 275 --- I am confused about how this line is written. I don’t see the situation where the Client asks the User for a printer name or address. I do see the case where the Client presents a list of Printer/Print-Service by name or address. If the user (and now the Client, perhaps) is at a new location; exactly how to they obtain the printer name – ask someone!!!</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>All desktop operating systems provide a way to add/select a printer by manually providing a name or address.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>20.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 282 --- same comment as for Line 275. When was the last time you saw a Client interface asked-for the URI of the printer (may be in setup but no by the Client).</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>The use cases do not differentiate between a user application and a management application, but (for example) you can add a printer from the print dialog in OS X.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>21.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "> Through out the document, it only discusses the “Printer”. I very strong recommend this be change to “Printer or Print Service”. The new print paradigm is service and printer.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>IPP Printer == logical printer (service) or physical printer (device).</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>22.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 298 --- Change “Visible” to “accessible”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>23.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 302 --- The words “on behalf of the user” should be removed. There may no always be a user (example an embedded solution).</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Somebody turned the embedded solution on. And this all comes from the common use case BOF text...</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>24.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 302 --- I do not see why there is a requirement that the Client “maintains a dynamic list of “accessible” Printers, during selection. I believe this should read, the Client “present a list of the currently accessible Printers or Print Services during selection”. The original statement put a burden on the Client to continuously initiate discovery or updating a list or drop-down menu if a new printer just happens to come up during the printer selection action.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>This is not a design document for the client UI. This is a list of use cases for a protocol specification - what does the protocol need to be capable of? Whether a client chooses to implement some aspect of a protocol is up to the client.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>25.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 304 --- Suggest removing “, updating those Printers as they come and go.” Have you ever tried selecting something from a list as the list continues to change; it ain’t fun.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Such interfaces exist today.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>26.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 309 --- Shouldn’t geo-location be a filter on Printer and Print Service found by Discovery; where the Printer and Print Services report geo-location? The Client, via the user, may have to specify what “a range” (proximity) to use. </span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Geo-location *may* be a filter, but this was called out specifically in the Use Case BOF since not all directory services may provide filtering; we need the info in the protocol to support the use case.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>27.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 313 --- Is the implication of this statement that the Printer or Print Service will somehow maintain the geo-loc list of Client !!!! I understand the Printer or Print Service has a geo-loc and the Client knows its own geo-loc; so the Client can do “proximity” sorting (I don’t about the word “detection”).</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>No, the Client and Printer each maintain their own knowledge of location.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>28.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">line 315 --- Section 3.2.18 If the Client can use Discovery to find the Printer or Print Service; then you are suggesting the reading a bar-code will somehow establish communication and an IPP protocol; interesting !!!!</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Bar codes can convey a bunch of info, including things like network address and printer URI.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>29.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">line 323 --- What does “properties such as Service” mean? If “Service” is dropped and line 324 changes “Printer” to “Printer or Print Service” then it makes sense.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>As in, which service is providing the printer ("show me all the printers available via Google Cloud Print")</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><span>30.<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">Line 324 --- Again, “Service properties include ….” makes more sense if it read “Printer or Print Service properties include….”. I can not see a User selecting an XYZ – protocol using an ABC-security model; if so, that’s one sophisticated user. If you are attempting to encompass a Cloud Print Service, I believe that protocol and security issues with the Client are done behind the scene based on some global Client host system settings.</span></font></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>The use case does not define how it is implemented, again we just want the capability...</div><div><br></div><div>....</div><div><br></div><div>Stopping here, but keep in mind that ALL of these use cases came directly from the Use Case BOFs; I am hesitant to start back down the road of making major changes to them, but I will make sure to incorporate your editorial changes in future revisions of the document. We can debate the use cases themselves in the F2F sessions...</div><div><br></div><div>
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