attachment-0001
Hi Mike,<br><br>I suggest we either:<br><br>(1) "job-originating-user-[name/uri]" applies to the IMMEDIATE upstream <br>client only (no forwarding behavior) and "originating-requesting-user-name" <br>name holds the most authenticated original Job owner (the distant guy on his <br>
cellphone in the Cloud printing scenario) - I think this was the spirit intended <br>by RFC 3998 - my preference.<br><br><or><br><br>(2) We leave 3998 alone and say that "originating-requesting-user-name"<br>
is a weak identifier (albeit now enclosed in a TLS tunnel in IPP Everywhere) <br>just like "job-name" that's meant to be used for searching and matching in <br>pools of jobs - not a good idea, because it makes the unverified contents of <br>
"requesting-user-name" into a sticky Job attribute - a bad precedent IMHO.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51, 51, 255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102, 0, 204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<div style="display:inline">
</div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Pete,<div><br></div><div>If we make this change, then what is the difference between original-requesting-user-name and job-originating-user-name?</div><div><br></div><div>Section 10.8.4 (re)defines job-originating-user-name as the authenticated original user and whose value is supposed to be forwarded by each client unchanged... (something I am not 100% happy with since there is no provision for it in an IPP job submission)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Seems like the original intent was for original-requesting-user-name to be the unauthenticated value.</div><div><br></div><div>(and now I go off to add some text for this to JPS3 for job-originating-user-uri...)</div>
<div><br><div><div><div class="h5"><div>On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:17 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Geneva;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">Please substitute “</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black">section 10.8.3 of rfc3998” for “section 10.8.8 of rfc3998” below.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Impact, sans-serif;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Email:<span> </span><a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Voice: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-8755" value="+15852658755" target="_blank">(585) 265-8755</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">FAX: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-7441" value="+15852657441" target="_blank">(585) 265-7441</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style:none;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);border-top-width:1pt;padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in">
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Zehler, Peter<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:13 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:IPP@pwg.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">IPP@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[IPP] Proposed errata for rfc3998<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black">All,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><pre style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New'">
<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black">Section 10.8.2 covering “original-requesting-user-name” is a bit misleading. The issue is that the Job owner is not always the same as the “requesting-user-name”. When forwarding jobs from one printer to another the “original-requesting-user-name” is the most authenticated printable name that can be obtained. As stated in section 10.8.8 of rfc3998: “The "job-originating-user-name" Job Description attribute (see [RFC2911], section 4.3.6) remains as the authenticated original user”. This is inconsistent with section 10.8.2 as currently written. Below is my proposed change to section 10.8.2.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black">Original:<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black">10.8.2. original-requesting-user-name (name(MAX)) Operation and Job<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> Description Attribute<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> The operation attribute containing the user name of the original<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> user; i.e., corresponding to the "requesting-user-name" operation<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> attribute (see [RFC2911], section 3.2.1.1) that the original client<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> supplied to the first Printer object. The Printer copies the<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> "original-requesting-user-name" operation attribute to the<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> corresponding Job Description attribute.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
Corrected:<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black">10.8.2. original-requesting-user-name (name(MAX)) Operation and Job<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> Description Attribute<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> The operation attribute containing the user name of the original<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> user; i.e., corresponding to the<span> </span><span style="background-color:yellow;background-repeat:initial initial">"job-originating-user-name" Job<u></u><u></u></span></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black;background-color:yellow;background-repeat:initial initial"> attribute (see [RFC2911], section 4.3.6)</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"><span> </span>that identifies the<span> </span><span style="background-color:yellow;background-repeat:initial initial">Job<u></u><u></u></span></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black;background-color:yellow;background-repeat:initial initial"> owner on</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"><span> </span>the first Printer object. The Printer copies the<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> "original-requesting-user-name" operation attribute to the<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:black"> corresponding Job Description attribute.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Impact, sans-serif;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Email:<span> </span></span><a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span></a><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Voice: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-8755" value="+15852658755" target="_blank">(585) 265-8755</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">FAX: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-7441" value="+15852657441" target="_blank">(585) 265-7441</a></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><br>--<span> </span><br>This message has been scanned for viruses and<span> </span><br>dangerous content by<span> </span><a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is<span> </span><br>
believed to be clean.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><br>--<span> </span><br>This message has been scanned for viruses and<span> </span><br>dangerous content by<span> </span><a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is<span> </span><br>
</div></div>believed to be clean. _______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br>
</div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
<span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Geneva;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Geneva;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Monaco;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div>________________________________________________________________________</div><div>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair</div><div><br></div></div></span><br></div></span><br></span><br>
</div>
<br></div><div class="im"><br>--
<br>This message has been scanned for viruses and
<br>dangerous content by
<a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is
<br>believed to be clean.
</div></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
ipp mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><div style="visibility: hidden; left: -5000px;" id="avg_ls_inline_popup"></div>
<br />--
<br />This message has been scanned for viruses and
<br />dangerous content by
<a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is
<br />believed to be clean.