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<html><head><base href="x-msg://96/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Glen,<div><br></div><div>The semantic definition is that the Printer may return substituted values for unsupported attributes in a Create-Job, Print-Job, Print-URI, or Validate-Job response. That is, if you specify duplex printing on transparency media, the printer could return sides-preferred with "one-sided" or media-col-preferred with a media-type other than transparency to tell the client that it will print the job differently than requested.</div><div><br></div><div>In the case of attributes like "copies", a printer may normally support up to (for example) 999 copies for uncollated output, but may only support 99 copies for collated output. Or the printer may not be able to support copies for a given document or document format.</div><div><br></div><div>In short, previously all the client has known is that particular attributes or values were not supported (or conflicted), but not what attributes would be used by the printer instead (typically the default values).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Nov 1, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; ">Discussion on wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20111013<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; ">In Section 6.4 I don’t understand the idea of “… the Printer would prefer to use”. Does this the Printer will override Job Ticket values? While, the printer has limitation or constraints which are reported in the capability information; what does it mean when the printer has “copies-preferred” (section 5.3.2) – does this mean the User wants 3 copies but the Printer prefers to only print 2 !!! Very Strange. There could be a concept of “recommended” attributes that would apply to a very small set of attributes (copies is not one of them) and would be presented to the User in such a way as to identify it as “recommended”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-indent: -0.25in; "><font size="3" face="Wingdings"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Wingdings; "><span>n<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font face="Cambria"><span style="font-family: Cambria; ">The same comment applies to almost all the other “preferred” attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; ">Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Cambria"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Cambria; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>This message has been scanned for viruses and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>dangerous content by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>believed to be clean. _______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
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