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Hi Robert,<br><br>Thanks very much for your help.<br><br>I'm forwarding your reply to the IPP WG mailing list<br>to let others know.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear="all"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daniel.roberts@hp.com">daniel.roberts@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">HI Ira,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Andrew Mitchell our architect had drafted the information you are looking for and put it in the UPnP Spec on the PWG site, prior to taking a new position in
HP. You can find the information here: <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-upnpprinter2-2011510.pdf" target="_blank">
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-upnpprinter2-2011510.pdf</a> <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Andrew said that he put the information in the UPnP Spec, but did not get a chance to add it to the IPP Everywhere spec where it belongs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">You should know that this proposal is just being launched with UPnP. I have been working with the UPnP Chair, Alan Messer, to bring up this new printer attribute
in UPnP. The challenge is to show the value in allowing IPP to manage the services, and only use UPnP for discovery – essentially replace what Bonjour(mDNS) does in IPP Everywhere and replace it with UPnP for the same actions. Once we get approval, we can
move quickly to get the IPP Everywhere standard to become the new DLNA print model. Currently DLNA uses UPnP and XHTML-Print which is very limited in the files it can support. Moving to this new model will be a great step forward and will open up printing
in areas never before supported!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please let me know if there is anything I can to support the PWG.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Daniel Roberts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">IWS Entertainment Printing Program Manager<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ira McDonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr); Ira McDonald<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Michael Sweet; Paul Tykodi; Yousey, Marc; Mitchell, Andrew (Mobile Technology Consultant/iOS Architect)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Daniel,<br>
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In the PWG's current IPP Everywhere project (lightweight, secure,<br>
mobile printing using IPP/2.0 w/ extensions), we have a brief section<br>
for each of several discovery protocols.<br>
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The latest draft IPP Everywhere spec is at:<br>
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<a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20110803.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20110803.pdf</a><br>
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It has a placeholder section 4.4 UPNP Discovery - this needs to be<br>
replaced by one or more paragraphs of text - and also renamed to <br>
DLNA Discovery, I think?<br>
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If you look at Table 1 in section 4.1, a similar mapping table<br>
should be included in section 4.4 - otherwise Table 1 will become<br>
unreadable due to font size, I think.<br>
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If you look at section 4.2 DNS Service Discovery (i.e., Bonjour), <br>
you can see the desired level of detail for the key device attributes.<br>
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Note that section 4.3 LDAP and SLP Discovery simply references <br>
the existing LDAP Printer Schema (RFC 3712) - which normatively<br>
references the IANA-registered SLP Printer Schema. Pat Fleming<br>
(IBM) and I are now revising RFC 3712 to add directory attributes <br>
(printer-uuid, printer-geo-location, and ipp-extensions-supported) <br>
that are all defined in the IPP Job and Printer Extensions Set 3 at:<br>
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<a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20110802.pdf" target="_blank">
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20110802.pdf</a><br>
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Any help with DLNA/UPnP discovery description for IPP Everywhere<br>
would be much appreciated.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
- Ira <br>
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Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6600CC">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
Christmas through April:<br>
579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br>
<a href="tel:734-944-0094" value="+17349440094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>
May to Christmas:<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
<a href="tel:906-494-2434" value="+19064942434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr) <<a href="mailto:daniel.roberts@hp.com" target="_blank">daniel.roberts@hp.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Ira,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I am the Managing the work to support DLNA/UPnP in our printers. What can I do for you?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Daniel
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Yousey, Marc
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ira McDonald; Michael Sweet; Paul Tykodi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Our man for that is Daniel Roberts (copied). Hopefully he can help you out.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">M.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ira McDonald
<a href="mailto:[mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]" target="_blank">[mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]</a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2011 3:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Yousey, Marc; Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald; Paul Tykodi<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Marc,<br>
<br>
I have this action item from IPP WG to ask you about HP help<br>
with the DLNA/UPnP discovery section of IPP Everywhere.<br>
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Can you help or recommend an HP person to do so?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
<br clear="all">
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6600CC">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>
mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
Christmas through April:<br>
579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br>
<a href="tel:734-944-0094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>
May to Christmas:<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
<a href="tel:906-494-2434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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