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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If we follow the idea to put the new value in JPS3 because it is a better fit and we also reach a point where we believe that PWG Raster is stable but JPS3 still needs some work to be completed, I believe that our “customers” could make an informed decision as to whether they believed it would be in their best interest to begin developing software that was compliant with the draft PWG Raster specification knowing that changes were still possible but not probable while we waited for JPS3 to be finished.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:110pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>/Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul Tykodi<br>Principal Consultant<br>TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC<br><br>Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820<br>Mobile: 603-866-0712<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com">ptykodi@tykodi.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>WWW: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tykodi.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.tykodi.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2011 10:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b> ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] Addition to PWG Raster Spec<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ira,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I agree it isn't a great fit in PWG Raster, but if we put it in JPS3 then JPS3 has to be completed before we can finish PWG Raster...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:42 AM, Ira McDonald wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Mike,<br><br>About putting "print-content-type" (or whatever name) into<br>PWG Raster rather than JPS3.<br><br>I suggest this is an architectural error - it's NOT just useful<br>for PWG Raster - it's useful for any raster or other opaque<br>document format.<br><br>It was the broader use case that we were concerned about<br>in the Open Printing Job Ticket API work.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear=all>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Christmas through April:<br> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br> 734-944-0094<br>May to Christmas:<br> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br> 906-494-2434<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Glen,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I was more thinking "where to put it in the header", but I've since decided to put PrintQuality in one of the empty cupsInteger slots and put your PrintContentType in the OutputType string field.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ira,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for which specification, since the first use is in the PWG Raster Format spec, I'm thinking we should put it in the PWG Raster Format spec and then include it in the list of required IPP Everywhere job template attributes...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>New Attribute</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>PrintContentType: Text, Text+Graphics, Graphics(vector), Photo</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>This is combined with “OutputType” to optimize output.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>This was big discussion in JTAPI definition and it was determine that is necessary to have both values.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We don't have this in the semantic model or IPP yet. Where do you propose I put this?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Monaco","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>I am not sure what you mean “where do you propose I put this”?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>If you mean --</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Within the PWG Raster it can occupy the first; no, better yet the last 4 bytes of the vender data space and shorten the vendor data space.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>If you mean--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Where will the information come from in a SM or IPP “job ticket”; then, I agree there is no source. But if an application choices to create a PWG Raster file and knows the PrintContentType value; then the application can fill in the field. The default value of zero (‘0’) can represent the value of “unknown” or “not specified”. So the enum could be</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>typedef enum {</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> NotSpecifed = 0,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> TextOnly,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> TextAndGraphics,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> GraphicsOnly,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> Photo</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>} ContentTypeEnum</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Geneva","serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mono","serif"'><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mono","serif"'>believed to be clean. _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mono","serif"'><br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>__________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>__________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div><br />--
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