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<br clear="all"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Ira McDonald</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:38 PM<br>Subject: Re: Thanks Ira<eom><br>To: "Zehler, Peter" <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>>, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br><br>Hi Pete,<br><br>Inline.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Zehler, Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ira,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">We’ll have a chance to rectify that soon. I have two unrelated questions<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Do you know what ever became of <<a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-v02-021205.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-v02-021205.pdf</a>> ?</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote></div><div><ira> EEK! No, I think this spec just got lost - we should share this with<br>Mike and the IPP folks.<br><br>According the IPP and SM mail archives, it was discussed on 5 Dec 2002<br>
at an SM telecon - but there are NO SM minutes after 7 Nov 2002 and<br>
before 23 January 2003 in the SM ftp minutes archive - hmm...<br></ira> <br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><p><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span>2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Do you think the title of the PWG Print Job Ticket specification should be “PWG Print Job Ticket for Cloud Based Printing”?</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote></div><div><ira> No - Instead, I suggest "PWG Print Job Ticket Semantic Model" <br>with use case(s), design requirements, and implementation notes for <br>Cloud Printing (and IPP Everywhere?). <br>
Because we don't want to keep rewriting a core SM spec for different <br>audiences, IMHO.<br><font color="#888888"></ira><br></font></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Pete<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Email: <a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Voice: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-8755" value="+15852658755" target="_blank">(585) 265-8755</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">FAX: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-7441" value="+15852657441" target="_blank">(585) 265-7441</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ira McDonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter; Ira McDonald<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Thanks Ira<eom><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Pete,<br><br>You're welcome - and thanks for the reminder yesterday.<br>
<br>Reading Nancy's section in FaxIn 14.1 (your new FaxOut 13.1)<br>about protecting the End User's data, I'm thinking that the <br>Security Considerations section in MFD Model is defective<br>in punting so completely about security - certainly neither <br>
Cloud Print nor IPP Everywhere can blithely ignore security <br>requirements.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br> <br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Zehler, Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:navy">Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Research Center Webster<br>Email: <a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Voice: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-8755" target="_blank">(585) 265-8755</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">FAX: <a href="tel:%28585%29%20265-7441" target="_blank">(585) 265-7441</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Xerox Corp.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">M/S 128-25E</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ira McDonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael R Sweet; Paul Tykodi; Zehler, Peter; Ira McDonald<br><b>Subject:</b> PWG MFD FaxOut Service Formal Vote-<High North>-<McDonald>-<Yes></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi, Tuesday (9 August 2011)<br><br>Based on the FaxIn review at last week's PWG meeting, High North votes<br>YES with the following editorial comments:<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> [Comments on "wd-mfdfaxoutmodel10-20110705.pdf"]<br><br>Line 242-244 - inaccurate out-of-scope<br>
- per FaxIn review - change section 4.2, item 1 to:<br> "Semantics of any compound service that creates separate Jobs for each<br> transform service or destination URI specified in the original Job."<br><br><br>
Line 308-311 - PSTN Fax multiple document jobs issue<br>- per FaxIn review - add sentence to end of section 6, last paragraph:<br> "Note that PSTN FaxOut jobs either: (a) do not support multiple<br> documents; or (b) do not distinguish the document boundaries in the<br>
FaxOut transmission."<br><br>Line 386-389 - call out FaxLogURI as location of durable log<br>- per FaxIn review - add sentence to end of section 6.5, last paragraph:<br> "Note that FaxLogURI specifies the location of the durable log that is<br>
REQUIRED for all FaxOutService implementations (see section 7)."<br><br>Line 409 - call out FaxLogURI as location of durable log<br>- change "MUST be durably logged." to:<br> "MUST be durably logged to the location specified in FaxLogURI<br>
(see section 6.5)."<br><br>Line 509-510 - PSTN Fax multiple document jobs issue<br>- per FaxIn review - insert new third sentence in section 8:<br> "Note that PSTN FaxOut jobs either: (a) do not support multiple<br>
documents; or (b) do not distinguish the document boundaries in the<br> FaxOut transmission."<br><br>Line 599-600 - clarity in conformance requirements<br>- per FaxIn review - revised first sentence in section 10.2.1<br>
- change "all of the model objects" to<br> "all of the REQUIRED model objects"<br><br>Line 607-610 - PSTN Fax multiple document jobs issue<br>- per FaxIn review - add sentence in section 10.2.2, last paragraph:<br>
"Note that PSTN FaxOut jobs either: (a) do not support multiple<br> documents; or (b) do not distinguish the document boundaries in the<br> FaxOut transmission."<br><br>Line 633-634 - protection of Fax user data issue<br>
- per FaxIn review - add entire section 14.1 from FaxIn as new section<br> 13.1 Protection of End User's FaxOut Data, change "FaxIn" to "FaxOut"<br><br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<u></u><u></u></p>
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