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<html><head><base href="x-msg://101/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Andale Mono'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">While updating the PWG Semantic Model and adding some missing MustHonor attributes I came across a bit of an issue. I was adding MustHonor to the elements directly under DocumentProcessing. When I got to elements like CoverBack and MediaCol I noticed that some of the contained elements are also directly under DocumentProcessing (e.g. Media, MediaType). It seems rather inconsistent to control fidelity for a subset of a collection’s members.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The issues comes down to which elements can be decorated with MustHonor and what limitations on attribute names are made for the job-mandatory-elements.</span></div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div>I did some reading this morning; section 3.1.2 of PWG 5100.7 has this to say about member attributes:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><p><span style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'ArialMT'">The values of the “job-mandatory-attributes” attribute are the keyword attribute names that identify Job Template
attributes; for example, ‘job-hold-until’, ‘job-finishings’ (see section 4.1.3.3), ‘copies’ and ‘media’. In order to identify a
member attribute of a collection attribute, the keyword names of both the collection attribute and the member
attribute are given separated by a period (.) character. For example, to make the “media” attribute of the “cover-
front” collection attribute mandatory, supply the keyword value: ‘cover-front.media’. </span></p></div></blockquote>So it seems that the current IPP definition does, in fact, allow a client to make only certain member attributes mandatory in a collection. Thus if you specified "media-col" by itself then all member attributes in the collection are required while "media-col.media-size" would only make the size a mandatory element.<div><br><div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; ">My opinion is that it MustHonor should be placed on every processing element and any job template attribute can be used in job-mandatory-element. I would expect that fidelity would work similar to documents inheriting job level attributes in multi-document jobs. The “MustHonor” attribute at a node in the tree (e.g., MediaCol) applies to all subordinate nodes (e.g., MediaTooth) unless explicitly overridden. The same semantics would apply for job-mandatory-elements.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>I believe that is ultimately what the current IPP definition says, now that I've re-read it.</div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div>__________________________________________________</div><div>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br></div></span>
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