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<html><head><base href="x-msg://64/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Pete,<div><br></div><div>I checked 5100.9 and we aren't saying anything about the ordering of printer-alert and printer-alert-description. Seems like we'll need to do an errata for that at some point.</div><div><br></div><div>Ira, I'll add the necessary verbiage to the text you supplied and post it in the version of JPS3 for the F2F...</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 30, 2011, at 4:49 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">It is my understanding that 1SetOf is unordered. But rfc2911 states “Sets are normally unordered. However each attribute description of this type may specify that the values MUST be in a certain order for that attribute.” I assume that the description will detail the ordering including the mapping to the Printer MIB and any ordering relationship between attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Impact, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Peter Zehler</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; ">Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; ">FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; 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color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michael Sweet<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:19 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[IPP] Re: IPP JPS3 - "printer-supply[-description]" encodings<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Ira,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I'm working on getting this text into a new rev of the JPS3 specification. Some comments below...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Ira McDonald wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">...<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">(3) prtMarkerSuppliesColorantIndex is omitted in "printer-supply"<br>because it is redundant with prtMarkerColorantIndex for the rows that<br>include colorant information.<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Do we even need the colorantIndex from the prtMarkerColorant table? Seems like unnecessary information that will never get used in this composite view of the two tables...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Same for Index - we implicitly already have it (1setOf is ordered) so why include it?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">MaxCapacity should be REQUIRED since otherwise how do you interpret Level?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Finally, I would make at least the colorant Value conditionally required, otherwise the data can't be represented properly in UI.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br> Table 6 - Keywords for printer-supply<br><br><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; ">SNMP Supply Object IPP Datatype IPP Keyword Conformance<br>------------------ ------------ ----------- -----------<br>prtMarkerSupplies...<br>Index (note 1) Integer index RECOMMENDED<br>MarkerIndex (note 2) Integer markerindex OPTIONAL<br>ColorantIndex (note 3) Integer --- ---<br>Class String class RECOMMENDED<br>Type String type REQUIRED<br>SupplyUnit String unit RECOMMENDED<br>MaxCapacity Integer maxcapacity RECOMMENDED<br>Level Integer level REQUIRED<br><br>prtMarkerColorant...<br>Index Integer colorantindex OPTIONAL<br>Role String colorantrole OPTIONAL<br>Value String colorantname OPTIONAL<br>Tonality Integer coloranttonality OPTIONAL</span><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">__________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>This message has been scanned for viruses and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>dangerous content by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>believed to be clean.<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div>
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