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<p class=MsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Below is the original note regarding a request for
parent/child job identifiers and the meeting minutes from the MFD working group
discussion. It was felt that the place for this discussion should not be
in the MFD working group but rather in the IPP working group along with the
discussion of IPP, IPP Everywhere and Cloud Printing. I request that this
issue be added to your IPP teleconference agenda.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Pete<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='font-family:
"Impact","sans-serif";color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Email: <a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com"><span
style='color:blue'>Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span></a></span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Corp.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Original note:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Would it also be possible to add some sort of parent job UUID
list/hierarchy? So it will be possible to track source/parent jobs after
splitting a job into several jobs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>For example (maybe not the best, but..):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Imagine I have a company
internal print cloud, to which I submit the jobs. This cloud could forward jobs
to other external clouds, based on location (one provider for US, another for
EU,…), cost or other parameters.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>So if I need to print a
marketing document in both US and EU, I could submit the job to a special queue
in the company cloud, which again would submit 1 copy to my local DeskJet printer,
submit a new job with 10000 copies to the external EU print/cloud partner and
another 10000 to the US partner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>In this example, the jobs
at the two external clouds, better not have the same UUID if I need to track
them. But I would still need the “root job” UUID for doing
accounting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hope this makes sense,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Christoph Lindemann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>MFD Meeting minutes on the subject:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:22.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Discuss Parent
Job UUID<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Christoph
briefly described the use case for cloud print he sent previously in IPP
Working Group list. The use case requires the parent job identification besides
Job UUID for tracking a job sent from a originating cloud to two other cloud
print services because of job size, cost, print service location,… etc.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>It
was clarified that although the given use case only involved one parent job, a
parent job in the cloud could be fanned-in from other multiple parent jobs and
could be further fanned out to multiple other clouds as multiple child jobs.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Pete
pointed out that although UUID is globally unique, its encoding is meaningless
and not very useful for job tracking purpose. Thus a list of pairs of
parent-child URIs was preferred for representing a sequence of job’s
fan-in/fan-out performed in the cloud.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Since
a job to be fanned in or fanned out could be completed, or in stopped or
pending state depending on how the cloud print service job processing is
implemented, an additional job state reason “fan-in/fan-out” is
required for these states. The client should also be notified when the very
last page of his job is finally printed.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Since
job fan-in/fan-out is a service property, there is a need for an attribute in
Service Capabilities to indicate whether and how this can be supported by a
service, e.g. based on job size, cost, …, etc., which could affect
chaining of jobs and services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Today
in IPP there exist partially stopped/partially successful state reasons. IPP is
also completely extensible. Hence near-term use of such can be added without
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>In
cloud print service, it is recommended that fan-out is always assumed for
failed job recovery purpose. However, this is out of scope in MFD model. But
there is nothing in the current model that prevents implementation of this
feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Agreed
that the discussion of this subject today should be forwarded to the IPP
working group for future IPP Everywhere and Cloud Print discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:76.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;
mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>AI: Pete to
forward today’s discussion to the IPP working group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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