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Hi Tom,<br><br>Comments on every one of your RED issues inline below.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
email: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>winter:<br> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br> 734-944-0094<br>summer:<br> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br> 906-494-2434<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Tom Hastings <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom.hastings@verizon.net">tom.hastings@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I’ve uploaded v0.10 of IPP Job and Printer
Extensions - Set 2 (aka Production Printing Attributes - Set 2) for the
upcoming IPP WG telecon, Monday, Nov 2, 1:00 PM PST = 4:00 PM EST (Note we
change from Daylight to Standard time over the weekend):</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><u><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025.doc" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025.doc</a></span></font></u><u><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><u><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippprodprintext10-v10-20091025.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025.pdf</a></span></font></u><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><u><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025-rev.doc" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025-rev.doc</a></span></font></u><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><u><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025-rev.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext10-v10-20091025-rev.pdf</a></span></font></u><u><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Note: that this time I really did change the file name to
agree with the new title, i.e., from wd-ippprodprintext10-xxx.yyy to
wd-ippjobprinterext10-xxx.yyy. The change tracking in the –rev
documents are changes from v0.8, 2009-10-08 version.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">v0.10, 2009-10-25</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I
made the edits that were agreed to at the 2009-10-14 face to face. See
Section 0 16 Appendix X - Change Log [<i><span style="font-style: italic;">which
I have copied at the end of this long email</span></i>]. Removed <span style="background: lime none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">green ISSUE</span> agreements from the previous
(2009-10-05) meeting. There are some <span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">red
ISSUES</span> to be reviewed. This would also be a good time to read the
whole spec.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">v0.9, 2009-10-14</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Agreements
at the IPP face to face meeting. See change tracking and MS-WORD
comments.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I
added 2 fixes with change tracking for Cancel-Jobs for the issue on returning
"job-ids" when jobs can't be canceled iff the client had supplied
"jobs-id".</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I
removed the <span style="background: lime none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">green ISSUE</span> agreements from
the 2009-10-05 meetings.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">If you haven’t read the spec from front page to back
page, this would be a good time to do so. We’ve made significant
progress and simplification to Cancel-Jobs and Cancel-My-Jobs operations.
So those are good to read. But the rest of the spec hasn’t had much
attention. I’ve left in the <span style="background: lime none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">green
ISSUE</span>s MS-WORD comments (agreements) from the face to face Oct 14
meeting, but removed the earlier <span style="background: lime none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">green ISSUE</span>s
to reduce clutter. I’ve added the following <span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">red ISSUES</span> (new text I want everyone to check, even if reading the
clean version). Responses to these in the email thread will be
appreciated, though I won’t make any changes to the document until after
the telecon.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th2]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Abstract: Is this summary of the new operations OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">This document also defines three new operations:
Cancel-Jobs, Cancel-My-Jobs, and Resubmit-Job. Cancel-Jobs allows an
operator/administrator to cancel a list of Not Completed jobs or all Not
Completed jobs on the Printer. Cancel-My-Jobs allows a user to cancel a
list of their Not Completed jobs or all their Not Completed jobs.
Resubmit-Job allows a user to re-process a modified copy of a Retained
Job. A new “job-ids” operation attribute is added to
Purge-Jobs and Get-Jobs, as well, to operate on a specified list of jobs,
instead of on all jobs.</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">[ira] Yes - this is a good summary. I might invert the last sentence to say "This document also extends two existing operati<span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">ons</span></span></font><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">: Purge-Jobs and</span> <span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Get-Jobs both have an optional "job-ids" operation attribute added to operate on a specific list of jobs, instead of on all jobs.</span>"<br>
</p></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th3]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: This updated text in the definition of Proof Print
Job in Section 2.2 OK to indicate that Proof Print Jobs can be aged out?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A Proof Print Job is a Retained Job that the Printer
retains (until removed by a Delete-Job or Purge-Jobs operation or aged out by
the Printer using a different policy than for ordinary completed jobs) after
printing a proof so that a copy of it can be printed any time after it has been
proofed using the Reprocess-Job or Resubmit-Job operations, rather than aging
the job out after an implementation-defined period.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div> <font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">[ira] Yes - this is good text.<br>
</span></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th6]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Section 4 New Operations: Is this summary OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<ol style="margin-top: 0in;" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cancel-Jobs -
allows the operator or administrator for the Printer to cancel selected or
<i><span style="font-style: italic;">all</span></i> Not Completed jobs.</span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cancel-My-Jobs
- allows a user to cancel selected or <i><span style="font-style: italic;">all</span></i>
his/her Not Completed jobs.</span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Resubmit-Jobs
- allows a user to request the printer to process a copy of a Retained Job
with possibly additional or modified attributes.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></li></ol></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes - fine. Except change "possibly" in (3) to "optional"</span> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th7]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Does the new Cancel-Jobs operations written
in full look OK now that Cancel-My-Jobs has been factored out into a new
section 4.2 below?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Please read section 4.1 Cancel-Jobs operation<br><br></span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] On line 434, change "Set 2 extension" to "Set 2 specification".</span> <span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Otherwise, it's fine.</span><br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;">
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[th10
and th71]: <span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE (repeat)</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: The PWG now have 4 levels of context for IPP
conformance:</span></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Level 1: IPP 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0,
2.1, 2.2.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Level 2: this extension spec (new)</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Level 3: Xxx Capability, i.e., Job
Save and Reprint Capability and Job Proof Print Capability.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Level 4: an operation.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 10pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 12pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Do we really want to introduce this level 2
conformance, i.e., conformance to this spec, or just rely on the IPP m.n specs
to group sets of attributes and operations?</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Each IPP spec (including this one) needs to define conformance ONLY to itself (without reference to any IPP/1.1 or IPP/2.x level at all). IPP/2.2 is NOT currently defined, but will include this spec and four others (PWG 5100.3, .5, .6, and .8) and a number of new required operations and attributes.</span> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th11]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Is this precedence of error checking text OK as
agreed to on 10/14/2009?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">First, the Printer MUST check the access rights of the
requesting user to endure that it is the Operator or Administrator of the
Printer (see <i><span style="font-style: italic;">Access Rights</span></i>
below). If this check succeeds, then (and only then) the Printer MUST
accept or reject the request based on the current state of each of the
candidate jobs and transition each job to the indicated new state as shown in
Table 2 (copied verbatim from [RFC2911], including the Rule 1 and 2 for the
convenience of the reader).</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes.</span> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th12]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Still OK that this table is copied verbatim from
[RFC 2911] as agreed, rather than merely referencing?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes.</span> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th15]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Does this Access Rights section look OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><a name="12497f8093e42cae_Access_Rights"><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic;">Access
Rights</span></font></i></a><i><span style="font-style: italic;">:</span></i> The
authenticated user (see [RFC2911] section 8.3) performing this operation MUST
be an operator or administrator of the Printer object (see [RFC2911]Sections 1
and 8.5). Otherwise, the IPP object MUST reject the operation without
canceling any jobs and return: 'client-error-not-authorized' status code and
MUST NOT return the "job-ids" operation attribute</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's fine.</span> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;">
<font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[th17]:
<span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">:
OK that omitting "job-ids" in the Cancel-Jobs operation cancels all
cancelable jobs? (This makes "job-ids" consistent with
Cancel-My-Jobs which cancels all owner's jobs, if omitted and with [RFC 2911]
Purge-Jobs.)</span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - the consistency with classic Purge-Jobs is important.</span> <br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th19]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Does the new Cancel-My-Jobs operations
written in full look OK? The change tracked version shows the changes
from Cancel-Jobs above (rather than being all change tracked, since this
section was NOT in v9)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] On line 510, change "Set 2 extension" to "Set 2 specification".</span> <span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">Otherwise, it's fine.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th21]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Does this text get across the precedence that
access check is higher precedence than status check, so that
"job-ids" never has a mixture of jobs that aren't the requesters and
ones that are but are in the wrong state as agreed to be the IPP WG to keep the
Printer error checking simple?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">First, the Printer MUST check the access rights of the
requesting user against <i><span style="font-style: italic;">all</span></i> of
the candidate jobs (see <i><span style="font-style: italic;">Access Rights</span></i>
below). If <i><span style="font-style: italic;">any</span></i> of the
candidate jobs are not owned by the requesting user, the Printer MUST NOT
cancel any jobs and MUST return the 'client-error-not-authorized' error status
code along with the list of offending “job-id” values in the
“job-ids” operation attribute (see section 4.1.2). If this
check succeeds, then (and only then) the Printer MUST accept or reject the
request based on the current state of each of the candidate jobs and transition
each job to the indicated new state as shown in Table 2 above. If any of
the candidate jobs cannot be canceled, the Printer MUST NOT cancel any jobs and
MUST return the indicated error status code along with the list of offending
“job-id” values in the “job-ids” operation attribute
(see section 4.1.2).</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes</span><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">, it's fine.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th22]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK NOT to duplicate Table 2 again, but just refer
to it above, since it has already been copied from [RFC2911]?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes - the first copy is necessary (though unfortunate) - but the second would be overkill</span><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th23]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: For Cancel-My-Jobs, if the user is the operator or
administrator, the jobs still have to belong to the operator or administrator,
right? Otherwise, the Printer MUST return the 'not-authorized' error,
right?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes - if they meant to ignore owner rights, they should have used Cancel-Jobs</span><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th24]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Does this Access Rights section look OK for the new
Cancel-My-Jobs operation?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;"></span><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><a name="12497f8093e42cae_Access_Rights2"><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-style: italic;">Access
Rights</span></font></i></a><i><span style="font-style: italic;">:</span></i> If
the client supplied the "job-ids" attribute, the authenticated user
(see [RFC2911] section 8.3) performing this operation MUST be the job owner of <i><span style="font-style: italic;">all</span></i> the candidate jobs. If <i><span style="font-style: italic;">any</span></i> of the supplied "job-ids"
specify jobs that do <i><span style="font-style: italic;">not</span></i> belong
to the requesting user, the IPP object MUST (1) reject the operation without
canceling any jobs, (2) return: 'client-error-not-authorized', and (3) MUST
return the "job-ids" operation attribute with any specified jobs that
are not owned by the requesting user (see section 4.2.2 below). <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes</span><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">, it's fine.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th26]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK that omitting "job-ids" in the
Cancel-My-Jobs operation cancels all of the user's cancelable jobs? (This
makes "job-ids" consistent with Cancel-Jobs which cancels all owner's
jobs, if omitted and with [RFC 2911] Purge-Jobs.)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - the consistency with classic Purge-Jobs is important.</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th30]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK for Resubmit-Jobs that the Printer MUST
reject an aborted job (as agreed to in the minutes of 10/05/2009), i.e.,
removed the previous row that said 'aborted' to 'aborted'?</span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - the aborted job can't have been successfully saved/proofed.</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th35]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Is this conformance statement OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">A client MUST be able to supply and a Printer MUST
support the "job-ids" operation attribute in a Get-Jobs operation in
order to claim support of this Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2 extension,
respectively. </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - except, change "Set 2 extension" to "Set 2 specification".</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th36]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: What happens if the client also supplies
"which-jobs" (type2 keyword) in the Get-Jobs request along with
"job-ids"? If some of the specified jobs are NOT in the states
requested, are they just ignored or is that an error?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] I think that "which-jobs" and "job-ids" should be mutually exclusive.</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th37R36]:</span></font> <span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: What happens if the client also supplies
"my-jobs" (type2 keyword) = 'true' in the Get-Jobs request along with
"job-ids"? If some of the specified jobs are NOT the user's
jobs are they just ignored or is that an error?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] I think that "my-jobs" and "job-ids" should be mutually exclusive.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th42]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Is this conformance statement OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If a client or Printer support the Purge-Jobs
operation, such a client MUST be able to supply and a Printer MUST support the
"job-ids" operation in the Purge-Jobs operation in order to claim support
of this Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2 extension, respectively. </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - except, change "Set 2 extension" to "Set 2 specification".</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th44 & th45]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK to add
"job-saved-with-warnings' to the list of unsuccessful values or are
warnings still successful saving?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - job save needs to be high-fidelity to be useful.<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th48]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK that this “save-name-subdirectory-supported”
(boolean) Printer Description attribute is described here in section
6.7.1.2.3.2.3, instead of in section </span>8 Printer Description Attributes <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">where all other Printer Description attributes are
defined?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - it flows better here.<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th52]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK that this “pdl-init-file-name-subdirectory-supported”
(boolean) Printer Description attribute is described here in section 6.8.1.2.2,
instead of in section </span>8 Printer Description Attributes<span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;"> where all other Printer Description attributes are
defined?</span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - it flows better here.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th58]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK to clarify that that
"jobs-ids-supported" only applies to the existing Purge-Jobs and
Get-Jobs, since the two new operations (Cancel-Jobs and Cancel-My-Jobs REQUIRE
the Printer to support "job-ids" if they support these new
operations?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The “job-ids-supported” (boolean) Printer
Description attributes indicates whether the Printer supports the
“job-ids” Operation in the following existing operations:
Purge-Jobs (if supported), and Get-Jobs. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - but we should reiterate the Cancel-Jobs and Cancel-My-Jobs requirement here, to avoid confusion.<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th59]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Is this conformance statement OK?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">A Printer MUST support the "job-ids-supported
" Printer Description attribute in order to claim support of this Job and
Printer Extensions - Set 2 extension.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - except, change "Set 2 extension" to "Set 2 specification".</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th60 & 74:] </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Ok to add a 'proof-print'
keyword to “which-jobs’ operation attribute in Get-Jobs so that a
client can query which jobs have been retained for proofing, analogous to Saved
Jobs?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - good idea.<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th61R60]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Should we make the 'proof-print' value of
"which-jobs" in Get-Jobs operation REQUIRED if
"proof-print" is supported?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - good idea.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th62]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Should we make the 'saved' value of
"which-jobs" in Get-Jobs operation REQUIRED if
"proof-print" is supported?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK - good idea.</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th64]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: All "job-state-reasons" values are
OPTIONAL. Should we make any of these "job-state-reasons"
values REQUIRED or conditionally REQUIRED, if such and such attribute is
supported?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Since job-state-reasons is REQUIRED in IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911), we should make the appropriate job-state-reasons values REQUIRED or CONDITIONALLY REQUIRED, as appropriate.<br>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[th67]:
<span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">:
There had been some mention of needing a Rationale section. But I
couldn't find out anything about what is needed?</span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-size: 12pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Where should it go?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] There should be a new top-level section 3 Requirements that contains (at a minimum) section 3.1 Rationale (for this spec), section 3.2 Use Cases (at least two - can be brief), and section 3.3 Design Requirements (for this spec). IPP PSX (PWG 5100.9) has a good example.<br>
I volunteered to write a first draft - I've just been very busy with Power Model - but I'll look into it this coming week.<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th68]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Is this new section which summarizes the REQUIRED items
for client and Printer in order to conform to this</span> Job and Printer
Extensions - Set 2 <span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">document, OK?</span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">In order for a client and a Printer to claim
conformance to this Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2 document a client MUST
be able to supply and a Printer MUST support the following:</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>1.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The Cancel-Jobs operation (section
4.1)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>2.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The Cancel-My-Jobs operation
(section 4.2)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>3.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The Resubmit-My-Jobs operation
(section 4.3)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>4.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The "job-ids" Operation
attribute in the Get-Jobs operation (section 5.3)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>5.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The "job-ids" Operation
attribute in the Purge-Jobs operation, if supported (section 5.4) </p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>6.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The Saved Job Capability using the
"job-save-disposition" Job Template attribute (section 6.7), if the
Proof Print Job Capability using the "proof-print" Job Template
attribute (section 6.9) is supported.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>7.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The Proof Print Job Capability
using the "proof-print" Job Template attribute (section 6.9)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 1.25in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><span>8.<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font>The "job-ids-supported"
Printer Description attribute (section 8.2)</p></div></div></blockquote><div> <span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK.<br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th69R68]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Are there any additional attributes that
should be added?</span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Not sure - over to Mike - job-state-reasons (i.e., specific values)?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th70R69]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Are there any additional attribute values
that should be added, such as for "job-state-reasons" or
"which-jobs", perhaps conditional on support of other attributes?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Not sure - over to Mike - job-state-reasons (i.e., specific values)?</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th72]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: OK to add 'job-saved-successfully' and
'job-saved-with-warnings' to the REQUIRED list if supporting
"job-save-disposition"?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Yes, it's OK.<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">[th73]: </span></font><span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">: Are all the attributes, operations, and
values in this section that the spec defines?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I did a check with the table of
contents and added many attributes to the IANA Considerations that had been
missed and deleted some that had been removed from the spec.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] Not sure - should check in final draft (before working group last call).<br>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[th75]:
<span style="background: red none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">ISSUE</span><span style="background: yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">:
The IPP 2.0 document doesn't include author's names in the References section,
but IETF RFCs do as does this version of our Set 2 spec. What should we use
here?</span></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><span style="font-family: times new roman,serif;">[ira] IPP/2.0 contains a later top-level section Editors' Addresses (which is current best practice in PWG specs). I prefer the word "Editor" to "Author" (currently used in IPP JPS2 spec).<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Here is the detailed change log that is in Section <a name="12497f8093e42cae__Toc237121004"></a><a name="12497f8093e42cae__Toc244344575"></a><a name="12497f8093e42cae__Ref242827114"></a><a name="12497f8093e42cae__Ref242827092"></a><a name="12497f8093e42cae__Ref242461851"></a><a name="12497f8093e42cae__Ref242461850"></a>16
</span></font>Appendix X - Change Log:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">1. Abstract:
added the two new operations: Cancel-Jobs and Resubmit-Job.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">2. Section 3.3
Job Save and Reprint Capability: Added that a Printer that supports Job Save
and Reprint, MUST support Proof Print.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">3. Section 3.4
Job Proof Print Capability: If a Printer supports Proof Print, it NEED NOT
support Job Save and Reprint Capability.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">4. Section 4
New Operations: Added this new section with complete Cancel-Job and Resubmit-Job
operations.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">5. Section 5.3
job-ids (1setOf integer(1:MAX)) for the Get-Jobs operation: In the
Get-Jobs operation, if the client supplies the “my-jobs” attribute
with the ‘true’ value and also supplies, the “job-ids”
operation attribute, the Printer MUST reject the request and return the
‘client-error-conflicting-attributes’ status code.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">6. Section 6.7
job-save-disposition (collection): Added: If Printer support
"job-save-disposition", then it MUST also support
"proof-print", but not the converse.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">7. Section
6.7.1.2.3.1 save-location (uri): Changed conformance for 'file:' in
"save-location" from SHOULD to MAY.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">8. Section
6.7.1.2.3.2 save-name (name(MAX)): Added reference to the new
"save-name-subdirectory-supported" Printer attribute that indicates
whether the Printer supports FORWARD-SLASH in the "save-name".</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">9. Section
6.8.1.2.2 pdl-init-file-name-subdirectory-supported (boolean): Added new
"pdl-init-file-name-subdirectory-supported" Printer Description
attribute to indicate whether or not FORWARD-SLASH was supported in the
"pdl-init-file-name" member attribute.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">10. Section
6.9 proof-print (collection): Added that Proof Print Jobs can be
aged out, but MAY be longer than ordinary jobs.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">11. Section
9.3 job-state-reasons (1setOf type2 keyword) Job Description attribute:
Removed 'job-proof-wait'.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Tom</span></font></p>
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