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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>I agree with all of Mike's comments.<br><br></div>Since the original Cloud Imaging Client (talking to the Cloud) <br>can't ever reach any URI in the remote domain "at" or "behind" <br>
the Cloud Imaging System Proxy, there is no need to publish<br>them.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Bill,<div><br><div><div class=""><div>On Jul 9, 2014, at 4:16 PM, William A Wagner <<a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net" target="_blank">wamwagner@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal">At the last conference call, it was questioned whether the ServiceXriSupported complex element should be provided to the Cloud Imaging Services by the Local Imaging Services (via the Proxy). XriSupported includes XriUri, XriAuthentication, and XriSecurity, which correspond to the IPP attributes of printer-uri-supported, uri-authentication-supported, and uri-security-supported.</p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Also, ServiceXriSupported comes from the IPP printer-xri-supported attribute (RFC 3380).</div><div><br></div><div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> The point was made that, since the neither the Cloud Imaging System nor its services are intended to communicate directly with the Local Imaging System, they have no need for this information. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">It should be noted that SystemXriSupported was added to the elements to be provided to the Cloud Imaging Control Service during the June 8 conference call (<a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-concall-minutes-20140609.pdf" target="_blank">cloud-concall-minutes-20140609.pdf</a>). (ServiceXriSupported was added some time previous)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">It would appear that, because by the Model all communication between the Cloud Services and the Local Services is initiated by the proxy, the Cloud Services do not need this information. However, it may be argued that the, aside from configured Services and perhaps state, the Cloud Services do not need any of the Local Service and System information sent; rather, this information is ultimately for the User. The question then is whether the User (in any role) has a need for this information. The question may be applied to all of the currently identified local system and service elements, the values of which are to be communicated to the Cloud Services..<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">For the Local System:<u></u><u></u></p><p><a name="1471cde66fdf7137_OLE_LINK7"></a><a name="1471cde66fdf7137_OLE_LINK6"></a><a name="1471cde66fdf7137_OLE_LINK5"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">CharsetConfigured<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">NaturalLanguageConfigured<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">MakeAndModel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">OwnerURI<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SystemGeoLocation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SystemLocation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SystemName</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">System</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">XriSupported</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ConfiguredServices<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">SystemUuid<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">State</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote></div><div>Probably don't need XriSupported or ConfiguredServices.</div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And for each Local Service:<u></u><u></u></p><p><a name="1471cde66fdf7137_OLE_LINK8"></a><a name="1471cde66fdf7137_OLE_LINK9"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">CharsetConfigured<u></u><u></u></span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">NaturalLanguageConfigured<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">OperationsSupported<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ServiceName<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ServiceXriSupported<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">VersionsSupported<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ServiceUuid<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">State<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p><span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">StateReasons<span><u></u><u></u></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">IsAcceptingJobs</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would appreciate opinions on this.</p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>Probably don't need OperationsSupported, ServiceXriSupported, or VersionsSupported.</div><div><br>
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