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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In commenting on the IPP Everywhere spec, I observed that the “Requirements” section of the Cloud Requirements and Model document was evolving along a different path. At least, by my interpretation of comments at the f2f meeting, the Use Cases were to present real scenarios and the Design Requirements were to state the design requirements implicit in these scenarios. This is different from the IPP Everywhere spec where, along with other differences, the Design Requirements appear to reflect external requirements and constraints on the design (e.g., the design should “</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Define conformance profiles that reference the IPP/2.0 versions”) Since the purpose of the Cloud document is in determining requirements and outlining a model addressing those requirements, the different approach seems reasonable. But, to get feedback from the WG before we put too much effort into this approach, I didi a small continuation of the Requirements section. This is posted at <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/wd-cloudmodel%20design%20requirements.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/wd-cloudmodel%20design%20requirements.pdf</a>, <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/wd-cloudmodel%20design%20requirements.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/wd-cloudmodel%20design%20requirements.docx</a>. I would like to have the WG look at this approach before proceeding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Another idea, both in Pete’s and Randy’s emails and inherent in the previous approach of working on the Model and then adding the use cases and requirements, is that aside from the security issues which we have sidestepped, we already know both the requirements and the model design for Cloud Printing. It that is the consensus, the current effort in looking at requirements is unwarranted and all we need say is that Cloud Printing is just any other printing, but has some components in the cloud.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default>And that brings up another issue. By my understanding, the WG has concluded that the Cloud elements themselves, and the security issues attached to working with the cloud are out of scope, and I have reflected that in the referenced writeup. But although the design of these aspects may be out of scope for use, since this is determined by “Cloud designers”, since the title and intent of this specification is “ Cloud Printing Requirements and Model” , it may be that a extensive consideration of the requirements on all aspects, including what we have called Association, Enumeration, Registration, etc., and the security issues involved, is in scope. Implementation aspects and particular protocols are delegated to the binding documents, but perhaps it would appropriate for this general document to reference specific other documents (other than just the proposed IPP and SOAP binding documents) that provide the details.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=Default><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=Default>I request that these subjects be discussed during today’s call. To justify putting effort into this specification, we must believe that is it useful at least, or perhaps even critical to establishing a consistent method for using hardcopy devices in Cloud oriented activities.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=Default><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=Default>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=Default>Bill Wagner<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ron Nevo [mailto:rnevo@sea.samsung.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2012 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'cloud@pwg.org'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Michael Sweet'; 'William A Wagner'; 'Ira McDonald'; Ron Nevo<br><b>Subject:</b> [Cloud] next conference call Monday August 27th 2012 from 3:00 to 4:00 pm EST<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi All<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239<br> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)<br> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)<br><br> Attendee Access Code: *******#<br> Attendee ID Code: # (empty)<br><br>If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br></span>Meeting information <br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon <br>Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date <br>Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) <br>Meeting Number: 624 587 312 <br>Meeting Password: pwg123 <br><br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>To start or join the online meeting <br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>Go to <a href="https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0">https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>------------------------------------------------------- <br><br><br><br></span>Agenda:<br><br>(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker<br><br>(2) Approve Cloud Imaging WG minutes from last teleconference<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-f2f-minutes-20120808.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-f2f-minutes-20120808.pdf</a>.<u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>(3) Action items from last meeting <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=Default><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Work to be done on incorporating Justin’s MSPS information into the Mapping document, V1. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Work to be done on deriving requirements from reworked Use Cases section. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Bill to post updated Cloud Printing Requirements and Model Interim Draft (DONE) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Larry to continue incorporating contributions into Cloud Printing Requirements and Model. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Pete to identify front end Use Cases other than just Job submission. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Mike to provide updated design requirements for Cloud Print Model (PENDING) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Joe to update definition of visible/visibility to cover IAA (PENDING – definition proposed but subject to rework)) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Ira to post information on MSPS mapping obtained from Justin. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.1pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Pete and others to work on MSPS information from Justin for mapping document. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:windowtext'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'>Action: Mike to update PPD Mapping (ONGOING - pending table updates) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal> (4) review Cloud Printing Requirements and Model document , posted at:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808.pdf</a> <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808-rev.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>and <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120808.docx</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(5) Review the New ? </span>use-case for accessing 3rd-party web site content to print "from" <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><img border=0 width=128 height=48 id="Picture_x0020_13" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD8448.2564FEE0" alt="Description: samsung"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certifications<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Chair IEEE/ISTO 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