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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>At the last conference call, there was a reconsideration of the model and what is to be “in Scope” in our modeling effort. Although the effect upon the model diagram consisted of switching some arrowheads, the impact upon what we are doing was more significant, if perhaps not crystal clear. Although Mike captured the essence of the conversations, I don’t think the minutes of the call leave us a clear statement of where we are going with the Cloud Printing Model effort.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Indeed, Glen voiced what I believe was a common question when he asked:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> “What are we doing…From the meeting I understand the "client <span style='font-family:Wingdings'>ó</span> cloud print service" interface is already defined (according the Pete and Ira). Since other "cloud system" interfaces (registration, etc) were declared out-of-scope (at least for now); then I believe this, as I stated in the meeting, leaves the group activity to writing the specification (or augmenting existing specifications via extensions) for the interface between the "Print Cloud Service <span style='font-family:Wingdings'>ó</span> Cloud Print Manager". Are there others specification that I missed?”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think Glen’s comment accurately reflects what may be concluded from the meeting, although the minutes allude to “describing” other interactions (as distinguished from defining the Cloud Print Service/Cloud Print Manager interface.). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>But I am not fully convinced this is sufficient to our broader objectives of developing a Cloud Printing Standard. The minutes add to my concern in stating:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>“ Are we selling ourselves short by not tackling association/registration?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>⁃</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'> A: No, core protocol stuff is still needed, and cloud services still evolving rapidly. Standardization of core model gets us the 90% solution, with vendor-specific interfaces accounting for a small amount of code<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>⁃</span><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'> We can always address association and registration for specific cloud technologies afterwards”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>It is unclear to me whether we are decreasing scope because logically and practically, the other interfaces we identified are beyond the purview of the PWG, whether we are delaying these considerations because they relate to other “Cloud” aspects still in flux, or whether it is expedient to do so since those that would best contribute to these considerations will not be able to do so. If what are doing is one phase of a larger activity, it should be identified as such. If it is complete in itself, then that should be stated and substantiated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>We spent much time considering use cases and requirements, without really completing that activity. We jumped ahead, diagrammed the model and working on interfaces before settling on specific use objectives and requirements and agreeing on what is in scope. I suggest that we return to the Use Cases/Rationale/ Scope/Reuirements step in the specification generation process. If we want to address this in phases, then we should clearly document this and the reasons for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Therefore, I think that in today’s meeting we should consider the “Requirements” section, hopefully in a clean draft from Larry or, if not available, Larry’s white paper draft (<a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/cloud%20print%20use%20case%20format%20update.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/cloud%20print%20use%20case%20format%20update.pdf</a>) Depending on how far we get generating a Requirements section that reflects what we want to address, we should then consider what we want to do at the August F2F. The slides for that the F2F be reconfigured to reflect that decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif"'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ron Nevo [mailto:rnevo@sea.samsung.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 20, 2012 5:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'cloud@pwg.org'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Michael Sweet'; 'William A Wagner'; 'Ira McDonald'; Ron Nevo<br><b>Subject:</b> [Cloud]& {IPP} next conference call Monday July 23th 2012 from 3:00 to 4:00 pm EST<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We will have a join call with IPP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We will start with IPP and then move to cloud<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239<br> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)<br> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)<br><br> Attendee Access Code: *******#<br> Attendee ID Code: # (empty)<br><br>If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br></span>Meeting information <br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>Topic: IPP/Cloud Imaging WG Telecon <br>Date: Every Monday, from Monday, July 9, 2012 to no end date <br>Time: 12:00 pm, Pacific Daylight Time (San Francisco) <br>Meeting Number: 624 587 312 <br>Meeting Password: pwg123 <br><br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>To start or join the online meeting <br>------------------------------------------------------- <br>Go to <a href="https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0">https://appleinc.webex.com/appleinc/j.php?ED=204995427&UID=504472682&PW=NNzM5MmRlMzBl&RT=MiM0</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#993366'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>------------------------------------------------------- <br><br><br><br>Agenda:<br><br>(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker<br><br>(2) Approve Cloud Imaging WG minutes from last teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-concall-minutes-20120625.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-concall-minutes-20120625.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(3) Action items from last meeting<span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Bill to post updated Cloud Printing Requirements and Model Interim Draft (DONE)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Bill to update the current Mapping draft (DONE)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Larry to post the further Cloud Print Sequence diagrams reflecting information developed on the sequence spreadsheet (DONE)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Mike to provide updated use cases text for Cloud Print Model (PENDING)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Mike to provide updated design requirements for Cloud Print Model (PENDING)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Joe to update definition of visible/visibility to cover AAA (PENDING)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;text-autospace:none'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Ira to work with Justin on MSPS mapping (ONGOING - work started)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Action: Mike to update PPD Mapping (ONGOING - pending table updates)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(4) Review F2F slides<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(5) review Print use case </span><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/cloud">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/cloud</a> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#993366'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thank You,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><img border=0 width=128 height=48 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD6832.4B1281D0" alt="Description: samsung"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:6.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Ron Nevo | Senior Manager | Product Marketing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Partners, Solutions, Information Security, MPS, Standards and Certifications<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Chair IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group-Cloud 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