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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>As far as the overall generic model is concerned; my hope is
that the PWG can create a very generic model (that is not constrained by any
existing PWG Candidate Standards) and, then, show where and how the PWG
Candidate Standards fulfill (or maybe don't fulfill) each major components
and/or protocol of the solution. Example, the communication between a CPS and
the Print Cloud Manager (really should be called a Printer Manager since it is
not in the Cloud) does not have to IPP ! But, IPP, fulfill the need and it is
easy to show how. Example 2; what if a CPS want all print job processing to be
done in the cloud (SAAS) versus in the at or beyond the Printer Manager; that
should be a possible solution also of the generic PWG Cloud model. PWG would
note that the CPS can be implemented as an IPP print queue and, again, easy to
show how.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 08, 2012 1:15
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Murdock, Joe; larryupthegrove;
ptykodi@tykodi.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;color:blue'></ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There is nothing to
prevent, and actually a lot to recommend/require, a Cloud Print Provider from
supporting multiple Cloud Print System Services, based on a variety of
performance, contractual and legal agreements/reasons. It is not unusual
that a customer’s requirement for a cloud service be that the
customer’s data never reside on or be processed on a service that does
not reside in a specified country. With a multinational Cloud Print
Provider, this would necessitate they provide multiple Cloud Print System
Services on multiple pieces of physical hardware that resides in multiple
countries). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>/></span></font><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>According to the definition in the model the Cloud Print
System Service (CPSS) "creates Cloud Print Services (CPS) and enumerates
CPS available to authenticated Cloud Print Users".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Thus, you want the Cloud Print Provider (CPP) (the
environment) to have multiple services that create CPS's and can enumerate
CPS's; which, if I follow your use-case, span multiples countries.
I don't really understand. A single CPSS could create the CPS
in any country. Your statements states that the customer's data must be
in a specific country; ok! The CPSS does not possess customer's data, a
CPS does (may); where the CPS resides in the country of interest. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'></<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In this scenario, a
user/company/printer/other service needs to have a well know endpoint to start
with (the Cloud Print Provider), from which it can be redirect as necessary to
the appropriate system service, and ultimately the proper print service, based
on information associated with a user’s account. If we combine the
Cloud Print Provider and the Cloud Print System Service this account-base
separation and redirection is no longer possible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>/><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>According to the definition in the model the Cloud Print
Provider "is the environment in which the CPSS and CPS's reside.
" So from this definition, there would have to be multiple
CPPs; one for each constrained environment. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>I actually don't understand your use-case. Any
CPP (Epson's, HP's, Google's, Ford's, etc.) is just the environment (the
collection of cloud print software entities). Assuming it is public
in a world wide sense (and not private where everything is "contained");
then there will always be single specific world wide entry points for
registration, user accounts, and so forth. It is fairly likely that
the entry points processing software does nothing more than redirect to one of
many, many, many Cloud Print Registry (CPR) that can communicate with each
other and share information (i.e. a user and printer registration data base).
(Either for load balancing or in your case for domain constraint.) Any
one of the CPR can instantiate a CPS and, if necessary, on a specific domain
server or in a specific country.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>I believe you are really discussing implementation and
deployment details versus a model. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'></<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I also don’t
like the idea of renaming the Cloud Print Provided as the Cloud Print Registry,
as registering a printer is only a small portion of it job. It does not
register a user, rather it authenticates a user account that was previously
setup via a marketing/sale organization. </span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>/><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>What does marketing/sales organization have to do with User
registration? I did not go to my or Google's sales or marketing group to
register in the Google Cloud Print (Provider). Or do you associate
a User with company. Example, Ford Motor Company wants an HP Cloud Print;
so that sales and marketing provide the "User" (Ford) with an account
(actually, a complete Cloud Print Solution). I believe the term
User means an individual but could be a group. An indeed a CPR
could register Users; that is an implementation of the Cloud Print
Solution. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'></<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It does not register
a Cloud Print System Service, rather it creates one or more Cloud Print Systems
as dictated by the same marketing/sales organizations (based on customer
requirements), with additional input from an IT organization. It does not
even really register a printer, rather it creates a Cloud-based Printer Service
to receive and handle jobs for that printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>/><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Again, I believe your model is that a Cloud Print System
Service is Cloud Print Bundle that is sold to companies. While, I
believe the model, generically, describes any Cloud Print Solution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>We all understand (at least I hope so) that "Printer
registration" implies creation of a CPS representing the physical (maybe
not even a physical) printer. If the CPSS creates CPS and it does
not register the CPS; then who does. It makes perfect sense that if the
CPSS instantiates a CPS it should register is some data base. And,
since, the CPSS (by definition) is supposed to enumerate CPS for a User; it
does have to have access to both a User data base and CPS data base and
association data for both the User and the collection of CPS's.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Murdock, Joe
[mailto:jmurdock@sharplabs.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 08, 2012 12:21
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> larryupthegrove;
ptykodi@tykodi.com; Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I don’t agree
with combine the Cloud Print Provider and the Cloud Print System Service
functionality. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There is nothing to
prevent, and actually a lot to recommend/require, a Cloud Print Provider from
supporting multiple Cloud Print System Services, based on a variety of
performance, contractual and legal agreements/reasons. It is not unusual
that a customer’s requirement for a cloud service be that the
customer’s data never reside on or be processed on a service that does
not reside in a specified country. With a multinational Cloud Print
Provider, this would necessitate they provide multiple Cloud Print System
Services on multiple pieces of physical hardware that resides in multiple
countries). In this scenario, a user/company/printer/other service needs
to have a well know endpoint to start with (the Cloud Print Provider), from
which it can be redirect as necessary to the appropriate system service, and
ultimately the proper print service, based on information associated with a
user’s account. If we combine the Cloud Print Provider and the
Cloud Print System Service this account-base separation and redirection is no
longer possible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I also don’t
like the idea of renaming the Cloud Print Provided as the Cloud Print Registry,
as registering a printer is only a small portion of it job. It does not
register a user, rather it authenticates a user account that was previously
setup via a marketing/sale organization. It does not register a Cloud
Print System Service, rather it creates one or more Cloud Print Systems as
dictated by the same marketing/sales organizations (based on customer
requirements), with additional input from an IT organization. It does not
even really register a printer, rather it creates a Cloud-based Printer Service
to receive and handle jobs for that printer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>And yes, of course
the term “Printer” in all of these diagrams should really be read
as “Imaging”. It may be appropriate to do that now, and just
limit the scope of Imaging to be printing for now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>larryupthegrove<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:44
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ptykodi@tykodi.com; 'Petrie,
Glen'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Glen raises some
interesting points for the next discussion. The challenge is that the
activities in the cloud are provider dependent, so there could be a wide
variety of implementations. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I would like to
leave client, but possibly add a cloud print client as part of the
association. Long term I could see cloud print provider becomes cloud
imaging provider, and “print” gets replaced with
“scan”, “fax”, etc. Then we can reuse a lot of
the diagrams and work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I updated the
sequence drawings, adding a Print sequence and an Enumeration sequence.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/Cloud%20Print%20sequence%20drawingsupdate20120607.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/Cloud%20Print%20sequence%20drawingsupdate20120607.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/Cloud%20Print%20sequence%20drawingsupdate20120607.vsd">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/Cloud%20Print%20sequence%20drawingsupdate20120607.vsd</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry Upthegrove<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a> <a
href="mailto:%5bmailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org%5d">[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]</a>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Tykodi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:05
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Petrie, Glen'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hi Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I like your choice
of the name registry. I find myself continually getting confused as to the
actual tasks undertaken by some of the components that live within the Cloud in
our current model.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>At least for me, the
use of the word registry really helped with the conceptual understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>/Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>--</span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Paul Tykodi<br>
Principal Consultant<br>
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC<br>
<br>
Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Mobile</st1:City></st1:place>:
603-866-0712<br>
E-mail: <a href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com">ptykodi@tykodi.com</a></span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>WWW: </span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tykodi.com/" target="_blank"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>http://www.tykodi.com</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cloud-bounces@pwgorg <a href="mailto:%5bmailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org%5d">[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]</a>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012
12:05 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen; William A
Wagner; <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>In fact, considering the functions of the Cloud Print System
Service, the Cloud Print System Service should be called the Cloud Print
Registry. This is where the User, Print Services, Transforms, etc
are registered. It is the place where User-to-'Print Service' association
is done. It is the place where a lot of the security and access
functionality is done (i.e User login, access token, etc.). Now in
the model diagram, the arrow going to the "cloud-boundary" now go the
Cloud Print Registry. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>[ I believe using system service in the name here will be a
big problem later when we define an MFD and have the MFD system service.]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Petrie, Glen <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 7:46
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen; 'William A
Wagner'; 'cloud@pwg.org'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Can the methods of the Cloud Print Provider be moved to the
Cloud Print System Service; thus, leaving the Cloud Print Provider as an
environment (basically, the collection of all Cloud Print entities in a
specific cloud implementation).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Petrie, Glen <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 7:42
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen; 'William A
Wagner'; 'cloud@pwg.org'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Comment on Cloud Print Provider. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>In the current definition, the Cloud Print Provider is
defined as an environment but then it methods. If the Cloud Print
Provider provides methods and can perform operations then it a software entity
and not just an environment. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a> <a
href="mailto:%5bmailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org%5d">[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]</a>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 7:16
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> William A Wagner; <a
href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Cloud] Updated
Mapping and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>I was reviewing the definition of the Client and I believe
the Client does not provide the association function. It must be a Cloud entity,
such as the Cloud Provider or the Cloud Print Provider (i.e. Google Cloud
Print), that creates and maintains the association between the User and one or
more Printers (Cloud Print Services). The Client (acting as a proxy for
the User) may or may-not actually display the list of User Associated Printer
Service (i.e. the Client may be an embedded Client).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>The Client is the software component that
implements the interface between the User and the Cloud Print Provider to
create an Association; and to enumerate available Cloud Print Services. The
Client is also implements the interface between the User and the selected Cloud
Print Service to submit a Print Job and to query Job and Printer Status. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>I would like to suggest the following</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>The Client is the software proxy implementing an interface
between the User and the Cloud Print Provider for selection of a specific Cloud
Print Service from an enumeration list of User associated Cloud Print Services
. The Client provides an interface for setting job elements which are
communicated with the specific Cloud Print Service The Client obtains and
provided the User with job queries and Printer status.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>I would like to also suggest that we name "Client"
as "Cloud Print Client" since this is a specific type of generic
Client that provides the interface specifically between the User and the Cloud
Print solution. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwgorg</a> <a
href="mailto:%5bmailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org%5d">[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]</a>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William A Wagner<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 06, 2012
7:34 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Cloud] Updated Mapping
and Model Drafts</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Interim level,
definitely work-in-progress drafts reflecting considerations during the June
face-to-face meeting are posted as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604-rev.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604-rev.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmap10-20120604-rev.docx</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606-rev.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606-rev.docx">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/wd-cloudmodel10-20120606-rev.docx</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Note that
un-redlined versions of MS Word documents may be obtained from redline
versions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Comments are
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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