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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ira,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please make the changes you feel necessary and post, as I requested.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill W.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b> William Wagner; cloud@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cloud] Revised charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br>I believe both the title and description of the new spec need changes:<br><br>(1) Title should be<br> "Mapping of PWG Job Ticket to/from MSPS, PPD, and JDF (PJTMAP)"<br> - per last week's minutes and our F2F discussion, JDF in scope<br><br>(2) Document filename should be<br> "wd-cloudpjtmap10-yyyymmdd"<br><br>(3) Description should be strictly limited to PWG Job Ticket (the<br> only normative reference needed for this mapping spec) and<br> name MSPS, Adobe PPD, and CIP4 JDF<br><br>(4) If our scope is expanded to address PrintServiceCapabilities,<br> then a SECOND mapping spec should be written, not a muddy<br> scope job ticket mapping spec<br><br>(5) Both directory (charter) and prefix (ch) are wrong in this<br> Interim draft, per PWG Naming Policy<br><br>The term "PWG semantic elements" is far too fuzzy to be source<br>or target for mapping - also there is no proposal to map the vast<br>majority of PWG SM/2.0 elements or objects.<br><br>The urgent issue is non-PWG *job ticket* usage in Cloud offerings <br>- capabilities are and will continue to be advertised and discovered <br>by a number of different means in Cloud Print implementations.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear=all>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Christmas through April:<br> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br> 734-944-0094<br>May to Christmas:<br> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br> 906-494-2434<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The changes look good to me; aside from the editorial comments about the MS licensing of MSPS, and the filename (should be "wd" until approved :) I think we are good to go...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I will fix the minutes tonight...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:33 PM, William Wagner wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In accord with the information in the minutes of the face-to-face Cloud Meeting minutes of 2 August (<a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-f2f-minutes-20110802.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/minutes/cloud-f2f-minutes-20110802.pdf</a>), I have revised the existing, approved Cloud Imaging WG charter and posted an interim draft.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/ch-cloud-charter-20110818-rev.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/ch-cloud-charter-20110818-rev.pdf</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/ch-cloud-charter-20110818.docx" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/wd/ch-cloud-charter-20110818.docx</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I sought to make changes in a way consistent with the original. In the interests of using concall time effectively, I request that those who prefer different wording or abbreviations post their preferred version, and that discussion be focused on content. One issue that needs to be resolved is under comment W1. “Considering that Semantic Model V2 is not yet formalized, but represents the preferred model, what do we use as a reference? If the to be issued PJT, do we loose mapping to the SM elements related to printer description?”</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Since the charter already separated out the print and multifunction document activity milestones, I made no changes to these other than the dates.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>(I should also observe the minutes cited above have an incorrect title and date)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Bill Wagner</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>believed to be clean. _______________________________________________<br>cloud mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org" target="_blank">cloud@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>________________________________________________________________________<br></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#888888'>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>cloud mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><br />--
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