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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Michael, I been investigating “Cloud
Imaging” on the WWW. Beyond referring to actual imaging of
clouds; it appears that Cloud Imaging is associated with actual “images”
(photo, picture, …) and not with printing (scanning, copying). I am
beginning to wonder if Cloud Imaging is really the correct title for the PWG cloud
activities. Even changing to Cloud Imaging Devices will still cause
ambiguities with “cameras”. Actually, going back to Cloud
Printing would be more identifiable by most technical people. Anyone who
will use PWG specification would understand it applies to MFDs or to printer of
any size or complexity. (Cloud MFD sound weird and Cloud Hardcopy is almost
as bad.) (Non-technical people (users) don’t even know what PWG stands
for.) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>So, what about Cloud Scan and Cloud
Copy. Can’t we just us these separate name. Cloud scan,
beyond some communication and security issue (which are common is a lot of
Cloud things), can be considered independent of Cloud Print even if done by an
MFD.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>In summary, maybe the Cloud naming and
activities should follow what is being done in the MFD group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet
[mailto:msweet@apple.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 15, 2011 12:15
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cloud@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST
cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>While I like the substance of the definition, I am uneasy about
copying their words like this - it would be good to contact the authors to get
their written permission so that we credit them appropriately in the cloud
model spec.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, since we *are* doing Cloud Imaging, we probably want the definition
to use Cloud Imaging instead of Cloud Printing and Imaging Device instead of
Printer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Based on the article referenced below I
modified in an attempt to create a definition for cloud printing. I
thought it could be reviewed to see if could be useful definition.
In most cases, I literal changed “computing” to
“printing” (or printer). I also added a few print related
items.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><a
href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Ira McDonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a>;
Ira McDonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<u1:p></u1:p></div>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>---------- Forwarded
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From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Brian Smithson</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><<a
href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM<br>
Subject: NIST cloud defs<br>
To: Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
To share at the meeting, if it's useful:<br>
<a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc"
target="_blank">http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc</a><br>
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<font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'>Brian Smithson<br>
PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA<br>
Security Research, Planning<br>
Advanced Customer Technologies<br>
Ricoh Americas Corporation<br>
<a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:%28408%29346-4435">(408)346-4435</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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