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<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Rick,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It was the consensus at the face to face meeting that the WIMS acronym should be retained although the scope was no longer limited to Web-based management.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Richard_Landau@Dell.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:55 PM To: wamwagner@comcast.net; wims@pwg.org Subject: RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Ship it!<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> rick<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> PS: No one else liked ISMS, eh?  I thought it was cute, where ISM = dogma, doctrine, theory, "a belief accepted as authoritative by some group," etc.  Oh, well.  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> </div> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of William A Wagner Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 17:01 To: wims@pwg.org Subject: RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p> I like "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics". Odd that we hadn’t thought of “Work…” before.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Any  objections?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Dave Whitehead Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:31 PM To: Ira McDonald Cc: Ira McDonald; Petrie, Glen; Harry Lewis; owner-wims@pwg.org; wims@pwg.org Subject: Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> How about "Workgroup for Imaging Management Semantics" -- that way we don't need to explain the missing "G." dhw David H. Whitehead Development Engineer Lexmark International, Inc. 859.825.4914 davidatlexmarkdotcom <o:p></o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td width="40%" valign=top style='width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org <o:p></o:p> 01/05/09 04:21 PM <o:p></o:p> </td> <td width="59%" valign=top style='width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> To<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> "Harry Lewis" <harryl@us.ibm.com>, "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> cc<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com>, wims@pwg.org <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Subject<o:p></o:p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> Re: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?<o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <o:p> </o:p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td> </tr> </table> <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> </table> <tt>Hi,</tt> <tt>So, "Working Group for Imaging Management Semantics (WIMS)"</tt> <tt>Bill is quite right that Services is not the correct scope.</tt> <tt>A precedent is IETF PWG (Printer Working Group, originally</tt> <tt>chartered for RFC 1179 and later for RFC 1759).</tt> <tt>Cheers,</tt> <tt>- Ira</tt> <tt>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)</tt> <tt>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG</tt> <tt>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc</tt> <tt>email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com</tt> <tt>winter:</tt> <tt>579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176</tt> <tt>734-944-0094</tt> <tt>summer:</tt> <tt>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839</tt> <tt>906-494-2434</tt> <tt>On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl@us.ibm.com> wrote:</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> So that would be "Working group for Imaging Management Services"?</tt> <tt>> (Semantics?) That'd be OK.</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Also, I'd have no problem retiring both PMP and WIMS and migrating into ISMS</tt> <tt>> or some other agreeable new name.</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Also, I'd have no problem just keeping WIMS as is and not getting too</tt> <tt>> concerned that everything in the bucket is not "Web based".</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Harry Lewis</tt> <tt>> Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards</tt> <tt>> Phone: 303-924-5337</tt> <tt>> e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com</tt> <tt>> infoprint.com</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> P Think before you print</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> "Petrie, Glen" <glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com></tt> <tt>> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> 01/05/2009 12:21 PM</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> To</tt> <tt>> <wims@pwg.org></tt> <tt>> cc</tt> <tt>> Subject</tt> <tt>> RE: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> I support W as  "Working group"</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> ________________________________</tt> <tt>> From: owner-wims@pwg.org [mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org] On Behalf Of</tt> <tt>> Richard_Landau@Dell.com</tt> <tt>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:10 AM</tt> <tt>> To: wims@pwg.org</tt> <tt>> Subject: WIMS> CIM> What is the W for?</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Re: changing the name of the WIMS group to reflect its broader scope</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> If the goal is to retain the acronym WIMS, we must construct a suitable</tt> <tt>> backronym.  The problem is the W, since the absorbed PMP items are not</tt> <tt>> "Web-based."  The current charter draft suggests "Wide-scope."</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> A few minutes with a dictionary yielded some other possibilities.</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Interesting but rejected:</tt> <tt>> - Wagner's     (practical)</tt> <tt>> - Wonderful    (boastful)</tt> <tt>> - Whiz-bang   (flippant)</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Possible:</tt> <tt>> - Well-known</tt> <tt>> - Working group for, as in "Working group for Imaging Management Semantics."</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> So long as the W does not stand for Washington, or for any other meaning of</tt> <tt>> "W" recently related to Washington, it's okay.</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> Of course, we could always change the name slightly, since lots of</tt> <tt>> interesting words end in MS for Management Semantics.  For example, Imaging</tt> <tt>> Systems Management Semantics, or ISMS.  Has kind of a nice ring to it.</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> rick</tt> <tt>></tt> <tt>> ----------------------</tt> <tt>> Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office</tt> <tt>> +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682</tt> <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html>