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<html><body> <DIV>With Glen W. Petrie comments </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- From: wamwagner@comcast.net <DIV>The next CIM alignment  concall is at 2PM EST on Thursday, 15 February. Sorry I am so late with this announcement and that I have not posted the minutes of the last call. I have been looking for my notes, but evidently left them in Boulder.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dial In: 1-866-365-4406 Toll #: 1-303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Clarification of Ira-Rick communications.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>2. Review of presentation material for face to face. See <A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/WIMS_WG_meeting_Feb_2007.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/WIMS_WG_meeting_Feb_2007.pdf</A></DIV> <DIV>Need to coordiate with Rick's presentation. Check on Milestones</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Discussion of Glen W. Petrie comments (attached) w/r to Counter Spec.</DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20070205.pdf" target=_blank></A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV>Bill Wagner</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>====================================================</DIV> <DIV>Glen W. Petrie comments </DIV> <DIV> Definitions Is "raw traffic" defined in the Semantic Model; otherwise, I think it should be added to this document. I was really surprised at the definition of Image; image is a very general term and here is represents something very, very specific. For Media Used does the term " media types" include both media size and type;  i.e. there could several media that are the same type but of differing size in a single job. For Monochrome impression I propose the first part of the definition read as         " A Monochrome Impression is an Impression imposed using [versus requiring] a single colorant..... For Number-Up I suggest - The number of [remove: user Job] logical pages to be imposed on each side of on a [remove: single media] Sheet. <A target=_blank name=_MailAutoSig></A> I don't understand whe some of the definition define things as objects.  For example does the Service need the words "An abstract object the represents ...." or is a Service just "A software component of a network...."   Same note applies to the definition of System - I really don't think of a System as an abstract object as defined here; it is just "A network host [computing] device.....".     In the text of the standard, it does appear the Service and System are a "software component" and "computing device" versus the abstract objects of them.  For Sheet I suggest - A [remove] Sheet is a single instance of a medium. [remove rest of line] For Simplex - The printing of impressions on only one side of each Sheet. [remove rest of line] Add Single-Sided - A synonym for Simplex.  [add this because two-sided is included] For Waste - I don't believe that "non-productive ...." are the right words; the words make it sound like something not necessary was generated and printed by design.  I'm not sure what words to use... but Waste Impressions has g ood start. ========= On page 19, second paragraph; first sentence; the word "consumable" add clarification since all media would be consumable for printing. ========= In many of the table the units are in "1024 octets" and then there is a unit is bracket called "koctets".  I had understood that "k" was an old notation and was being.  Specifically, "</F ONT>k" means 1000 and "Ki" means 1024.  So the units should be "KiOctets" following the current notation of "KiB" (versus "kb")</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>