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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <TITLE>Some comments I have on the PWG Counter Spec</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1578" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Hi Glen,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm forwarding your good comments and questions to the WIMS WG</DIV> <DIV>list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Some definitions include 'abstract object' because this Counter spec</DIV> <DIV>inherits the multifunction object model defined in the WIMS/1.0 spec</DIV> <DIV>and now being refined in Semantic Model/2.0 work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The 'System' object corresponds exactly to the 'System' group in</DIV> <DIV>MIB-II (RFC 1213 and successors) and Host Resources MIB (RFC</DIV> <DIV>2790).  It maps one-to-one to the 'Server' object defined as the root</DIV> <DIV>object on a piece of hardward by ISO 10175 (DPA).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The 'Service' object is key to WIMS/1.0 and Semantic Model/2.0 </DIV> <DIV>work.  It corresponds to an IPP Printer object (which does NOT </DIV> <DIV>correspond to a device).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All - please reply to Glen's comments - since we are planning to</DIV> <DIV>improve the Datastream definition, clarifying other definitions</DIV> <DIV>would also be appropriate at this time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cheers,</DIV> <DIV>- Ira</DIV> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Petrie, Glen [mailto:glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:18 PM To: McDonald, Ira Cc: Petrie, Glen Subject: Some comments I have on the PWG Counter Spec </DIV> Ira, Below is a note I was going (am) sending you. But after completing my review of the Counter Std, I realize my comment a not too important.   I will say that all of you did a good job on the standard. glen ----------- Ira, I am sending this note to you first, because I have bad experiences sending such note to group when the activity is very far along.  Anyway.... tell me if these comments should be considered by the group or they have already been hashed out. Definitions Is "raw traffic" defined in the Semantic Model; otherwise, I think it should be added to this document. I was really surprised at the definition of Image; image is a very general term and here is represents something very, very specific. For Media Used does the term " media types" include both media size and type;  i.e. there could several media that are the same type but of differing size in a single job. For Monochrome impression I propose the first part of the definition read as         " A Monochrome Impression is an Impression imposed using [versus requiring] a single colorant..... For Number-Up I suggest - The number of [remove: user Job] logical pages to be imposed on each side of on a [remove: single media] Sheet. <A name=_MailAutoSig></A> I don't understand whe some of the definition define things as objects.  For example does the Service need the words "An abstract object the represents ...." or is a Service just "A software component of a network...."   Same note applies to the definition of System - I really don't think of a System as an abstract object as defined here; it is just "A network host [computing] device.....".     In the text of the standard, it does appear the Service and System are a "software component" and "computing device" versus the abstract objects of them.  For Sheet I suggest - A [remove] Sheet is a single instance of a medium. [remove rest of line] For Simplex - The printing of impressions on only one side of each Sheet. [remove rest of line] Add Single-Sided - A synonym for Simplex.  [add this because two-sided is included] For Waste - I don't believe that "non-productive ...." are the right words; the words make it sound like something not necessary was generated and printed by design.  I'm not sure what words to use... but Waste Impressions has good start. ========= On page 19, second paragraph; first sentence; the word "consumable" add clarification since all media would be consumable for printing. ========= In many of the table the units are in "1024 octets" and then there is a unit is bracket called "koctets".  I had understood that "k" was an old notation and was being.  Specifically, "k" means 1000 and "Ki" means 1024.  So the units should be "KiOctets" following the current notation of "KiB" (versus "kb") Rgds, Glen W. Petrie Epson Imaging Technology Center 2580 Orchard Parkway, Suite 200 San Jose, CA, 95131 Voice: 408.576.4131  Fax: 408.474.0511 </BODY></HTML> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 1:23 PM