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<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Hi
Rick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=4>They're all wet - they don't know their own IETF MIB reference
syntax!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=4>Quoting verbatim from CIMv2.11
'CIM_BGPProtocolEndpoint.mof':</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>
MappingStrings { "MIB.IETF|BGP4-MIB.bgpConnectRetryInterval"
}]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Note,
none of this pseudo-pipe syntax - THOUSANDS of examples</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>in the
above syntax in CIMv2.11. These guys should read their</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>own
stuff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=4>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=284321022-24032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>-
Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music
/ High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<BR>phone:
+1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-wims@pwg.org
[mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Richard_Landau@Dell.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 24, 2006 3:57
PM<BR><B>To:</B> wims@pwg.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> WIMS> CIM> CIM Core
discussion about MappingString format<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Went well. Not perfectly, which is my fault
but easily fixed. Discussion points:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>- MIB.PWG okay. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Hyphen instead of dot okay. The only
reasonable alternative is %2E or some such, which is much more hostile to
humans. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>- "Section 4" was questioned. I,
unfortunately, could not get the doc (PWG5101.1) open in time to look at the
section, and I didn't remember it. The group's statement was If there is
a table or data structure containing a property, one should use pipe syntax,
e.g., </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2> doc.authority | structurename |
propertyname. </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>See examples in the new
association CIM_SCSIInitiatorTargetLogicalUnitPath, which is, horrors, a
three-way association, but includes several examples of this syntax, e.g.,
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>
MP_API.SNIA|MP_PATH_LOGICAL_UNIT_PROPERTIES|deviceFileName </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>HOWEVER, that doesn't apply to the PWG5101.1
"Section 4 Media Color Names" case, anyway. As I read it, Section 4 is a
textual convention, one of three in the doc, which might be specified as a
syntactic restriction on any number of properties in other
specifications. There is no property name within a structure to be
cited. I assume that the same reasoning would apply to any other textual
convention if there were no other formal syntax to apply. The IANA
textual conventions that we cite do have a reasonable structure because they
are defined in MIBs, so that case is not comparable. Conclusion: no
problem. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I closed off the debate by saying that we would
take a look at it and send a revised email with context so that they could
understand the "Section 4" case, however we resolved it. We should send
a very simple revised message (again to wg-cimcore), with wording about
textual conventions but not in formal MIB or other syntax, and maybe an
extract of Section 4 from the document, declare victory, and move on.
Ira, can you make the slight additions?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, a nit, I found a minor typo in PWG5101.1 when
I was looking at our friend Section 4: the first para ends with "...as defined
in Table ." It should say "Table 1."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have a good weekend, all.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>rick</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>----------------------</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Arch, CTO
Office</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>+1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3
MS 8509, Round Rock, TX 78682</FONT> </P><BR>
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