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Rick, this is great. When negotiating the Work Register, we presumed two-way education. Thanks for clarifying the process and participants. I'm sure, among our eager PWG-CIM contributors, we can work out the proper means to carry out this alliance. I thought we got a great start on this week's conference call. <a href=ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/minutes/cim/cim_050720.pdf>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/minutes/cim/cim_050720.pdf</a> ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM STSM Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ---------------------------------------------- <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%><Richard_Landau@Dell.com> Sent by: owner-wims@pwg.org 07/21/2005 01:38 PM <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td><wims@pwg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>WIMS> CIM> Good news on PWG-CIM alignment work</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> Dear PWG members, After consulting with my local DMTF expert about the process that we should follow for the CIM realignment work, I have good news and really good news.   First, the really good news: the process of updating the CIM schema will be much simpler and less involved than I previously thought.   - The modeling within CIM will be done by the DMTF liaison group, in this case the Core Schema WG.  The PWG, as the alliance partner, supplies the technical information about the changes needed or desired, technical descriptions, spec wording, etc., which is the technical heavy lifting.   - The CIM schema change requests (CRs) will be written by the DMTF liaison group, the Core Schema WG.  This is the process heavy lifting.   - The "education" period seriously goes in both directions: the DMTF has to become familiar with the printer device model embodied in the Printer MIB, and the PWG has to become familiar with the CIM schema in general and the CIM model of the printer device in particular.  I assume that each group will be need to be involved in indoctrinating the other.   Now, the other good news is that the DMTF liaison person is John Crandall, who is said to be kinder, gentler, and very helpful.  The only bad news is that Harry Lewis, as the PWG liaison person, has yet another task to occupy his free time.  And we will have to find some time for concalls when subsets of the two groups can meet.   I have attached a couple representative simple CRs from the SMWG.  You can see that the material required is pretty straightforward: rationale, details, issues and responses.  More complex CRs that may go through several ballot cycles tend to be much longer than these simple examples, but the structure is the same.   We can discuss any of these points at length next week.   rick PS: We discussed using a prefix in email subject lines to enable recognition or sorting of messages on this WIMS sub-topic.  (Like the "CIM>" that I included above.)  Did we decide on a string to use?  If so, I apologize for not employing it here.   ------------------------- Richard_Landau@dell.com, System Mgt Arch & Stds +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3 Box 8352, Round Rock, TX 78682