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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the input.&nbsp; I have
answered your questions below.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pete</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Bergman, Ron
[mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 25, 2004
1:33 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Zehler, Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> wims@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: WIMS&gt; ACTION
Request: suggestions for mandatory MFP counters in Counter MIB proposal</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Pete,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Admittedly I have not kept up with
the discussions, so my questions may have been fully covered </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>in the meetings, so I apologize in
advance.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. I question why the term
&quot;ImpressionsTwoSided&quot; is used in the counter names.&nbsp; This seems
to</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;me to be
confusing, since an impression is one side of a sheet a two sided impression is
a</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp; two sided single side
of a sheet?&nbsp; Wouldn't &quot;SheetsTwoSided&quot; be better?</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&lt;PZ&gt;The reason it is impressions is
that it counts impressions.&nbsp; The ImpressionsTwoSided counter increments
for each side that is impressed.&nbsp; The impression counters allow us to
derive the number of simplex and duplex sheets.&nbsp; The MediaUsed counter is
used for tracking the media resources consumed by the various services.&lt;/PZ&gt;</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. The &quot;MediaUsedMedia&quot;
and &quot;MediaUsedMediaInfo&quot; appear to not be counters?&nbsp; Why are
they</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; listed as
counters?</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&lt;PZ&gt;These two elements are used to
uniquely identify a media instance.&nbsp; I'll add some explanitory text
to make it clearer.&lt;/PZ&gt;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That aside, here is my
recommendation for a standard subset:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp;
Impressions</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp;
BlankImpressions</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp;
ImpressionsTwoSided&nbsp; (SheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.&nbsp; KOctetes</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5.&nbsp;
AuxiliaryImpressions</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6.&nbsp;
AuxiliaryImpressionsTwoSided&nbsp; (AuxiliarySheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 7.&nbsp;
WasteImpressions</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8.&nbsp;
WasteImpressionsTwoSided&nbsp; (WasteSheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9.&nbsp;
MediaUsedTotalSheets</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10.&nbsp;
ProcessingTime</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt;text-indent:-19.5pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>11.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TotalTime</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&lt;PZ&gt;Thanks.&nbsp; I assume items 1,
2 and 3 are for the DocumentData counts&lt;/PZ&gt;</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ron Bergman</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ricoh Printing
Systems America</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-wims@pwg.org
[mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Zehler,
Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 21, 2004
10:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> PWG Announce
(pwg-announce@pwg.org)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Pwg WIMS (wims@pwg.org)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> WIMS&gt; ACTION Request:
suggestions for mandatory MFP counters in Counter MIB proposal</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>All,</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The work on</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>the</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&quot;PWG</span></font>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Standard
for</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Multifunction Device Counters&quot; is nearing
completion.&nbsp; Before a standard MIB is coded we are looking for the subset
of counters to mandate in all implementations</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>of the Counter MIB
or schema.</span></font>&nbsp;<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> One of the goals of this work is to facilitate the
development of fleet management applications in a</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>heterogeneous
imaging environment.&nbsp; I need</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>input</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from you to arrive
at a manageable subset of counters that meets the</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>needs of fleet
management applications and is not to onerous for MFP vendors to implement.</span></font>&nbsp;<font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Please send
me your input by close of business Friday October 29.&nbsp; Send your comments
to</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&lt;</span></font><a href="mailto:wins@pwg.org"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>mailto:wins@pwg.org</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&gt; or you
can mail them to me d</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>irectly</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&lt;</span></font><a
href="mailto:pzehler@crt.xerox.com"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>mailto:pzehler@crt.xerox.com</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&gt;</span></font>&nbsp;<font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> .</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The current version of the specification is available
on the PWG ftp server at</span></font>&nbsp;<font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&lt;</span></font><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.pdf"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.pdf</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&gt;</span></font>&nbsp;<font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> or</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&lt;</span></font><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.doc"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.doc</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&gt; </span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font>&nbsp; </p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Pete</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span></font><br>
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font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Xerox Corp.</span></font><font color="#333399"
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