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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the input. I have
answered your questions below.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pete</span></font></p>
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Zehler</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
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XeroxPeopleNet;color:red'>XEROX</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy'>Xerox Innovation Group</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Email: PZehler@crt.xerox.com</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;
color:#333399'>Voice: (585) 265-8755 <br>
FAX: (585) 422-7961 <br>
US Mail: </span></font><font color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial;color:#333399'>Peter Zehler</span></font><font color="#333399"
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
Xerox
Corp. <br>
800 Phillips Rd. <br>
M/S 128-25E <br>
Webster
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Bergman, Ron
[mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 25, 2004
1:33 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Zehler, Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> wims@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: WIMS> ACTION
Request: suggestions for mandatory MFP counters in Counter MIB proposal</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Pete,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Admittedly I have not kept up with
the discussions, so my questions may have been fully covered </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>in the meetings, so I apologize in
advance.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1. I question why the term
"ImpressionsTwoSided" is used in the counter names. This seems
to</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> me to be
confusing, since an impression is one side of a sheet a two sided impression is
a</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> two sided single side
of a sheet? Wouldn't "SheetsTwoSided" be better?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><PZ>The reason it is impressions is
that it counts impressions. The ImpressionsTwoSided counter increments
for each side that is impressed. The impression counters allow us to
derive the number of simplex and duplex sheets. The MediaUsed counter is
used for tracking the media resources consumed by the various services.</PZ></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2. The "MediaUsedMedia"
and "MediaUsedMediaInfo" appear to not be counters? Why are
they</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> listed as
counters?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><PZ>These two elements are used to
uniquely identify a media instance. I'll add some explanitory text
to make it clearer.</PZ></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That aside, here is my
recommendation for a standard subset:</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 1.
Impressions</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 2.
BlankImpressions</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 3.
ImpressionsTwoSided (SheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 4. KOctetes</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 5.
AuxiliaryImpressions</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 6.
AuxiliaryImpressionsTwoSided (AuxiliarySheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 7.
WasteImpressions</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 8.
WasteImpressionsTwoSided (WasteSheetsTwoSided)</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 9.
MediaUsedTotalSheets</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 10.
ProcessingTime</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:67.5pt;text-indent:-19.5pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>11.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>TotalTime</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><PZ>Thanks. I assume items 1,
2 and 3 are for the DocumentData counts</PZ></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Ron Bergman</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Ricoh Printing
Systems America</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> owner-wims@pwg.org
[mailto:owner-wims@pwg.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Zehler,
Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 21, 2004
10:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> PWG Announce
(pwg-announce@pwg.org)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Pwg WIMS (wims@pwg.org)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> WIMS> ACTION Request:
suggestions for mandatory MFP counters in Counter MIB proposal</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>All,</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The work on</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>the</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>"PWG</span></font>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Standard
for</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Multifunction Device Counters" is nearing
completion. Before a standard MIB is coded we are looking for the subset
of counters to mandate in all implementations</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>of the Counter MIB
or schema.</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> One of the goals of this work is to facilitate the
development of fleet management applications in a</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>heterogeneous
imaging environment. I need</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>input</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from you to arrive
at a manageable subset of counters that meets the</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>needs of fleet
management applications and is not to onerous for MFP vendors to implement.</span></font> <font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Please send
me your input by close of business Friday October 29. Send your comments
to</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><</span></font><a href="mailto:wins@pwg.org"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>mailto:wins@pwg.org</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>> or you
can mail them to me d</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>irectly</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><</span></font><a
href="mailto:pzehler@crt.xerox.com"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>mailto:pzehler@crt.xerox.com</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>></span></font> <font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> .</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The current version of the specification is available
on the PWG ftp server at</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><</span></font><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.pdf"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.pdf</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>></span></font> <font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> or</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><</span></font><a
href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.doc"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20040913.doc</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>> </span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font> </p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Pete</span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:4.0in'><font size=3 color=navy face=Impact><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Impact;color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span></font><br>
<font color=red face=XeroxPeopleNet><span style='font-family:XeroxPeopleNet;
color:red'>XEROX</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;color:navy'>Xerox Innovation Group</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Email: PZehler@crt.xerox.com</span></font><br>
<font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span></font><font
color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>FAX:
(585) 422-7961</span></font><font color="#333399" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span></font><br>
<font color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'> </span></font>
<font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Xerox Corp.</span></font><font color="#333399"
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>
800 Phillips Rd.</span></font><font color="#333399" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>
M/S 128-25E</span></font><font color="#333399" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'><br>
</span></font>
<font size=2 color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Webster NY, 14580-9701</span></font><font
color="#333399" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#333399'> </span></font></p>
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