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Harry Lewis <br>
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
http://www.pwg.org<br>
IBM Printing Systems <br>
http://www.ibm.com/printers<br>
303-924-5337<br>
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<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"McDonald, Ira"
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<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">06/02/2004 11:47 AM</font>
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<td valign=top><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"'Wagner,William'"
<WWagner@NetSilicon.com>, Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS</font>
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<br><font size=2>Hi,</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2>PLEASE answer quickly with your opinions on edits below,</font><font size=3>
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so I can begin the edits needed in all of the WIMS schema</font><font size=3>
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after last week's PWG Vancouver meetings.</font><font size=3> </font>
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<p><font size=2>Last week, we reduced the scope of the PWG Std Events spec</font><font size=3>
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and Events schema to Printer-only (Printer, Job, Document,</font><font size=3>
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and Subunit). Fine, but...</font><font size=3> </font>
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<p><font size=2>(1) Alerts schema - Should I delete 'AlertResource'?</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2> - it depended on the now _deleted_ ResourceXxx
events</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
in the Events schema and Resource object in the</font><font size=3>
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(abandoned) Imaging System Model draft</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">HL - Yes, for now... but we need to put
these back in later</font>
<p><font size=2>(2) Alerts schema - Should I change 'NotifySourceState'</font><font size=3>
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to delete 'Testing' and 'Down' from 'hrDeviceStatus' <br>
in Host Resources MIB (RFC 2790)?</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2> - this change will make support of coherent
Printer</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
state harder to harmonize with HR MIB</font><font size=3>
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- I think that it's a bug that Printer state in IPP/1.1</font><font size=3>
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requires state reasons to report Down or Testing</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">HL - No</font>
<p><font size=2>(3) Alerts schema - Should I rename 'NotifySourceState'</font><font size=3>
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to 'NotifyPrinterState' and 'NotifySourceURI' to</font><font size=3>
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'NotifyPrinterURI'?</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2> - doing so effectively closes the future
possibility</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
of multifunction alert support in WIMS</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">HL - No!</font>
<p><font size=2>(4) Resource schema - Should we abandon this schema?</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2> - last week's meeting seemed against adding
any</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
new objects except in some future PWG MFP Model</font><font size=3>
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- abandoning Resources seems foolish to me</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2> HL - Seems foolish to me too. Don't like the
word abandon. Prefer "staging"</font>
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(5) Schedule schema - Should I reorganize it into</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
the three Monitoring, Management, and Admin groups</font><font size=3>
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of Actions?</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2> - this seems worthwhile, as it describes
WIMS levels</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
better</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">HL - Yes</font>
<p><font size=2>(6) Schedule schema - Should I delete Resource actions?</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2> - Does WIMS WG accept the need to model Resource?</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">HL - No (Yes... but possibly at a later
"stage")</font>
<p><font size=2>(7) Schedule schema - Should I import 'NotifyEvents' from</font><font size=3>
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the Events schema?</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
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- this looks better, but again loses Resources</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=3>HL - Not sure... why does this loose Resources... because
event schema requirments are being driven by PSI? Seems incorrect.</font>
<p><font size=2>(8) Schedule schema - Should I add the elements for</font><font size=3>
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Supported[Operations|Actions|Objects] here, so</font><font size=3>
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that RegisterForManagement operation works?</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2> - the WIMS operations won't appear in any
generic</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
PWG Semantic Model element in the forseeable future</font><font size=3>
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<p><font size=3>HL - why do you say the WIMS ops won't appear in SM? Do
you mean just the admin related Ops?</font>
<p><font size=2>Cheers,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
- Ira</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><font size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)</font><font size=3>
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Blue Roof Music / High North Inc</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
phone: +1-906-494-2434</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2><br>
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</font><font size=3> </font>
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