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Ira, a few comments that I've been wanting to surface regarding the SNMP printer MIB mapping. You probably realize, I haven't been as large a proponent of preserving consistency for the sake of large enterprise apps as you have... but I've welcomed the mechanical mapping because 1. You were willing to do it 2. We need a mapping of the Printer MIB to XML to at least serve as basis for our semantic modeling 3. It is possible that the resulting 1-to-1 mapping will be ideal for WBMM (but I have my doubts) An example of an area where I'm not sure the straightforward mapping will serve well is in the Marker/MarkerSupplies/Colorant tables. An important goal of WBMM will be accurate mark counts on a per color basis. I believe this is achievable with the printer MIB but at the expense of several layers of indexing. I would hope we can represent this in a cleaner fashion in WBMM. Ultimately, I believe an extension to the PWG semantic model for device management with clean mapping to SNMP Printer MIB, DMTF CIM Printer, NPAP etc. is the ultimate goal. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group http://www.pwg.org IBM Printing Systems http://www.ibm.com/printers 303-924-5337 ----------------------------------------------