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The PWG process (diagram) acknowlesd Brainstorming, Charter development and Requirments gathering as valid actiities at the origin of a new program. I'd like to begin a requirements thread. Here are requirements of WBMM that I would like to see addressed 1. More expressive than the Printer MIB   - While the Printer MIB is an EXCELLENT standard from the point of view of adoption and functionality... there is room for improvment   - Specifically, we could be more expressive and clearer regarding State, Status and Error reaaons.     - You who are smiling know what I'm talking about (i.e. nix the decoder ring...) 2. Expressed in XML   - More than a clique, XML will aid developers in designing and implementing compliant applicatins with modern tools 3  Usable by a wide variety of applications   - Experience with the Printer MIB has demonstrated that the range of interested applications includes      - Device Management      - Accounting      - Enterprise Managemtn      - Remote Serviceing and Help Desk      - Self configuring Drivers 4. Optomized for interoperatility   - Care should be given to the use of mandatory and optional   - Min/Max access to settable attributes should not be a mystery   -  Consider a self describing data model vs.  embedding definitions in the protocol 5. More... I'm sure. Please join in... ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ----------------------------------------------