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<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Jerry,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree with you that I don't see the problem that Norbert's talking
about</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>in the
ABNF - it looks fine to me - it certainly does NOT allow
multiple</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>periods in the fraction part.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree that the spec should NOT point at that bogus location for
the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>normative ABNF.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We
don't really have any firm ideas what to do with normative
adjuncts</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>(like
ABNF or WSDL or whatever) to PWG standards-track specs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But
they certainly do NOT belong in 'Candidates'.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=769432917-13102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-
Ira</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<BR>Blue Roof Music
/ High North Inc<BR>PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<BR>phone:
+1-906-494-2434<BR>email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com</FONT> </P>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> thrasher@lexmark.com
[mailto:thrasher@lexmark.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:57
AM<BR><B>To:</B> harryl@us.ibm.com; imcdonald@sharplabs.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Possible errata in custom media size spec???<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Harry, Ira,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>I'm not an ABNF expert by any means but I don't see the problem in the
spec. that Norbert is talking about. It looks to me</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>like both the short-dim and long-dim specifications are
exactly the same...???</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Here's the
text from the MSN Specification:</FONT> <BR>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B>media-size-self-describing-name =
</B></FONT>
<DIV align=center>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B>( class-in "_" size-name "_" short-dim "x"
long-dim "in" ) |</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B>( class-mm "_" size-name "_" short-dim "x"
long-dim "mm" )</B></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> class-in = "custom" | "na" |
"asme" | "roc" | "oe" </B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> class-mm = "custom" | "iso" |
"jis" | "jpn" | "prc" | "om"</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> size-name = ( lowalpha |
digit ) *( lowalpha | digit | "-" )</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> short-dim = dim</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> long-dim = dim</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> dim = integer-part
[fraction-part] | "0" fraction-part</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> integer-part = non-zero-digit
*digit</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> fraction-part = "." *digit
non-zero-digit</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> lowalpha = "a" | "b" | "c" |
"d" | "e" | "f" | "g" | "h" | "i" |</B></FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><B> "j" | "k" | "l" | "m"
| "n" | "o" | "p" | "q" | "r" |</B></FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><B> "s" | "t" | "u" | "v"
| "w" | "x" | "y" | "z"</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> non-zero-digit = "1" | "2" |
"3" | "4" | "5" | "6" | "7" | "8" | "9"</B></FONT>
<P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><B> digit = "0" |
"1" | "2" | "3" | "4" | "5" | "6" | "7" | "8" | "9"</B></FONT>
<P>
<P>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>However, one thing I did notice that according
to the MSN spec. there is supposed to be a "latest" ABNF file at the following
URL:</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/standards/pwg5101-abnf.txt</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>And that's not the correct URL for a lot of
reasons......</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>JT</FONT>
<P><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif color=#800080 size=1>----- Forwarded by Jerry
Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 10/12/2004 08:51 AM -----</FONT> <BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"Norbert Schade"
<schade@oasissemi.com></B></FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>10/03/2004 01:09 PM</FONT> <BR></P>
<TD><FONT face=Arial size=1> </FONT><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1> To:
<Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-ps.us>,
<thrasher@lexmark.com>, <pzehler@crt.xerox.com></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1> cc:
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Subject: custom media
size</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Ron and
others,<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>I'm surprised about the ABNF for the
custom media size in the Media<BR>Standardized Names
spec.<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>I've noticed that I can specify any
number of decimals for the x dimension,<BR>but only 1 decimal for the y
dimension.<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Is that an oversight or is there
some deeper thinking behind it, which I do<BR>not yet
see?<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>I'm dodging away a bit by switching
from inch to the smaller mm, but of<BR>course I'm still not
perfect.<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Regards<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><TT>Norbert<BR></TT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Norbert
Schade<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Software
Manager<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>Oasis Semiconductor, Inc.<BR>201
Jones Road<BR>Waltham, MA 02451<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>USA<BR>tel.
1-781-370-8929<BR>fax. 1-781-370-8990<BR></TT></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><TT>email:
norbert.schade@oasissemi.com<BR></TT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></P></BODY></HTML>