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Shawn... I'm stuck! I really want to collocate a meeting... BUT... how does it do us any good if the meetings run in parallel? Then someone has to miss something and the likely resolution is that "FSGers" will go to FSG and "PWGers" will go to PWG and we might as well not have combined. I know I would have a very hard time choosing! Ideally, we'd collocate but not run parallel. This would mean spanning a weekend... but this may not "sit" well with people (travel, time, extra expenses over the weekend). Another alternative is to book the weekend, or the Sunday before and Saturday after. Again... folks grumbling... but we've got to get the work done somehow! As far as logistics... we will put up a URL for people to register their intent to join the meeting. We spread the cost of meeting facilities across the group so everyone ends up being charged $45-$65/day (depending on location etc.). We already have a hotel booked and would have to expand the room block, meeting space, catering etc. I'm willing to do this... but we need to decide on the above, quickly!! Yes, everyone is responsible for their own reservations. We do negotiate a rate (and a room block) at the hotel where the meeting is held... but some people will get better rates at nearby hotels according to their corporate arrangements. Can you estimate how many people you would have coming to the f2f? ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ---------------------------------------------- <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td>"PRATT,SHAWN (HP-Boise,ex1)" <shawn_pratt@hp.com> 01/30/2003 11:03 AM <td>                To:        Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS         cc:                 Subject:        FW: [printing-meetingnotes] Joint FSG/PWG face-to-face 31 March t        o 4 April 2003</table> <tt>Harry:  We have discussed this to some extent back in December.  With the PWG meetings last week over, I would like to see what I need to do to get connected to the PWG meetings in Washington DC.   At today's Open Printing meeting, this is the proposed schedule we established.  Is it possible to fit into those timeframes? Do you have a process that I can explain to folks on what they need to do to register (hotel, meetings, etc.).  I am assuming I handle the meeting registration for the open printing discussions.  I am also assuming each person needs to book their own hotel registration.  How do you cover the cost of the conference rooms?  Is this added to the person's hotel bill? Thanks, Shawn Pratt FSG OpenPrinting Chair -----Original Message----- From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:45 AM To: 'printing-meetingnotes@freestandards.org'; 'pwg@pwg.org' Subject: [printing-meetingnotes] Joint FSG/PWG face-to-face 31 March to 4 April 2003 Hi folks, [Harry Lewis (IBM/PWG Chair) - please touch base with Shawn Pratt (HP/FSG Open Printing) - thanks] At today's FSG Open Printing Architecture telecon we briefly discussed having at least two days of FSG Open Printing face-to-face meetings in Washington, DC this spring - the same week as the Printer Working Group (IEEE/ISTO PWG). The tentative PWG schedule (from their Web site just now) is as follows (note that there is not a PWG UPDF session): Mon 31 March - Character Repertoires (CR)             - Web-based Device Management Tue  1 April - PWG Plenary             - IPPFAX WG Wed  2 April - UPnP (requires UPnP membership) Thu  3 April - PWG Semantic Model (SM)               (XML schemas of printing operations               and attributes - used by PSI) Fri  4 April - Print Services Interface (PSI)               (WSDL/SOAP/HTTP print services               using the PWG SM schemas) A possible FSG Open Printing meeting schedule: Mon 31 March - FSG OP Plenary               FSG OP PAPI Tue  1 April - FSG OP JTAPI               FSG OP Printer Driver/Renderer Wed  2 April - FSG other (TBD) Comments? Cheers, - Ira McDonald  High North Inc _______________________________________________ printing-meetingnotes mailing list printing-meetingnotes@freestandards.org http://freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-meetingnotes </tt>