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I feel Tom's write-up, while similar, is an improvement  to my recommendation so I vote we go with Tom's approach for naming ISTO drafts prior to approval. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ---------------------------------------------- <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td>"Hastings, Tom N" <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com> Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org 10/24/2002 01:20 PM <td>                To:        pwg-announce@pwg.org         cc:                 Subject:        PWG-ANNOUNCE> Agreements on not numbering IEEE-ISTO drafts until approved (and         file names to use in the meantime)        </table> NOTE:  Please send any comments on this note to the <a href=mailto:pwg@pwg.org>pwg@pwg.org</a>, instead of a Reply-ALL.  We don't want to use PWG-ANNOUNCE for discussion threads, just announcements.   Harry has pointed out that we shouldn't number PWG standards with IEEE-ISTO numbers, either in the file name or on the first page and page headers until they are approved (past PWG Last Call).  Then we avoid leaving holes in the numbering space and mis-leading readers into thinking that a draft is an approved standard.  Also the file names can be more meaningful while they are drafts.   At the PWG Semantic Model call today with a lot of attendees, we agreed to remove the numbers from the next drafts and use the new file naming scheme and the old copy should be deleted from the PWG site.  If a document isn't being updated in the next couple of weeks, then the existing document should be renamed on the PWG site.   On the first page and page headers, instead of the IEEE-ISTO number, put 5100.x for IPP documents and 510n.y for documents for new categories, such as IPPFAX, that haven't any documents approved.   For a file naming scheme for drafts before they are approved, the file names for PWG documents intending to become IEEE-ISTO documents, we agreed to the following simple file naming scheme:   pwg-group-aaa-bbb-Vnn-yymmdd.doc, .pdf pwg-group-aaa-bbb-Vnn-yymmdd-rev.doc, .pdf, red-lined versions   where: pwg indicates a pwg document group indicates the group and probably is the short DL name, i.e, ipp, sm, ifx, psi, etc. aaa-bbb are meaningful words or abbreviations (see below, but keep it fairly short so the file URL don't line wrap in email) Vnn is the version number starting at V01 and incrementing by one (authors can increment the date for the same version while yymmdd is the year month and day, so that they sort in ascending order by date.   No underlines, since they look like spaces in underlined URLs No spaces, since they don't work in some systems.   In order to make the web site for each project point to a stable URL, each document should be copies twice to the PWG site with the stable file name being:   pwg-group-aaa-bbb-latest.doc, .pdf   where the rest of the file name before the latest is invariant with successive versions and is the same pwg-group-aaa-bbb as the file name that has the version number and the date.   (We need to update the IPP web page to use the durable URL and start posting file twice so the the IPP web page is as good as the other PWG groups in always pointing to the latest draft of each document).   Here are some suggested names for the existing IEEE-ISTO versions of PWG IPP documents showing their existing URL and the suggested URL on the following line:   1.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.5-2002 [doc-obj], “Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Document Object, Hastings, T. and P. Zehler, September 7, 2002, work in progress, <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_DOC/IPP-Document-Object-020927.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_DOC/IPP-Document-Object-020927.pdf</a> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_DOC/pwg-ipp-document-object-V01-020927.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_DOC/pwg-ipp-document-object-V01-020927.pdf</a> 2.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.6-2002 [not-srv],  “Distributed Notification Service”, Hastings, T., Lewis, H., and I. McDonald, October 3, 2002, work in progress, <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/ipp-dist-not-service-021003-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/ipp-dist-not-service-021003-rev.pdf</a>  <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/pwg-ipp-dist-not-service-V01-021003-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/pwg-ipp-dist-not-service-V01-021003-rev.pdf</a> 3.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.7-2002 [prod-print2],  “Production Printing Attributes – Set 2”, Hastings, T., and D. Fullman, September 27, 2002, work in progress, <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_PPE/pwg-ipp-prod-print-set2-020927.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_PPE/pwg-ipp-prod-print-set2-020927.pdf</a>  <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_PPE/pwg-ipp-prod-print-set2-V01-020927.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_PPE/pwg-ipp-prod-print-set2-V01-020927.pdf</a> 4.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.8-2002 [color],  “Color and Imaging Attributes”, Hastings, T., and D. Fullman, October 8, 2002, work in progress, <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-021008.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-021008.pdf</a>  <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-D01-021008.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_COLOR/pwg-ipp-color-and-imaging-D01-021008.pdf</a> 5.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.9-2002 [actual] Internet Printing Protocol (IPP), “-actual” attributes extension, Carney, D., and H. Lewis, work in progress, October 18, 2002. <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attributes-V01-021018.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attributes-V01-021018.pdf</a> And the following two have not yet been published at all and will be published without numbers using the agreed scheme: 6.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.10-2002 [mime-parm]  Internet Printing Protocol (IPP), “PWG MIME Standard parameters for Document Formats”, McDonald, I, and T. Hastings, work in progress <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg/org/pub/pwg/new_MIMEPARM/pwg-ipp-mime-parm-D01-0210xx.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg/org/pub/pwg/new_MIMEPARM/pwg-ipp-mime-parm-D01-yymmdd.pdf</a> 7.       IEEE-ISTO 5100.11-2002 [pnsp], “Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Distributed Notification Service - Printer to Notification Server Protocol (PNSP)”, I. McDonald, <draft-mcdonald-ipp-dist-not-pnsp-00.txt>, work in progress, September 25, 2002. <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg/org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/pwg-ipp-pnsp-D01-yymmdd.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg/org/pub/pwg/new_NOT/pwg-ipp-pnsp-D01-yymmdd.pdf</a>   The IPPFAX documents should use the above scheme for the IPPFAX Protocol and PDFax documents (and UIF put into historical), instead of using 5102.1 for IPP FAX protocol, 5102.2 for UIF and 5102.3 for PDFax.  So their numbers would be: 510n.x and file name, say, pwg-ifx-protocol-V12-yymmdd.doc and pwg-ifx-pdfax-V03-yymmdd.doc    On a related note to PWG process, Rick Seeler points out that according to our PWG process, all of the above documents should be labeled as versions of PWG Proposed Standards, not PWG Draft Standards.   Tom      -----Original Message----- From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 08:56 To: imcdonald@sharplabs.com; hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com; Dennis Carney Cc: don@lexmark.com Subject: Recent ISTO drafts Guys... I'm not sure we should be grabbing numbers (ex.5100.10) for DRAFTS! The process should recognize that a draft may not be approved. The number should probably be assigned AFTER approval. ---------------------------------------------- Harry Lewis IBM Printing Systems ----------------------------------------------