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All: This working group has four Internet-Drafts [1] that have been in the "IESG Evaluation :: Revised ID Needed" state for units measured in years.  What this tells me is that the working group has been unresponsive to IESG review comments.  I have asked the WG chair and at least one editor to review the IESG comments and update the document as needed, but the response I received was lukewarm. Years is too long.  Something has got to change.  It's either time to update the documents, finish them up, and close the working group, or to drop them entirely and close the working group. To that end: I want to see a reply to this note from the WG chair, posted to this working group mailing list by 0000 UTC Friday 2 July 2004 (a little more than two weeks from now), describing what the working group intends to do with each of the four documents.  If no such plan is provided, the working group will be closed due to inactivity and the documents will be dropped. If a plan is provided it must include either a request to drop the document or a date by which time the document will be updated and sent to the I-D administrator for publication.  You may wish to consider finding new document editors if the legacy editors are unable to update the documents. I am willing to work with you on timeframes if the group shows a willingness to move forward with the needed document updates. IESG review comments can be found in the I-D tracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi Discussion of possible ways forward is appropriate... -Scott- IESG Applications Area Advisor for IPP [1] draft-ietf-ipp-not-spec-11.txt draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03.txt draft-ietf-ipp-not-06.txt draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-09.txt