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<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">All,</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">We will have a Semantic Model Teleconference this week</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> at the usual time</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">. The teleconference details are below. The agenda is below.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> Bring any new comment/issues</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> you have with you and email them to me if possible.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The c</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">urrent list of comments is appended below.</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Agenda:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">1) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Adjust agenda</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Quick status of SM, Schema, JobX, Overrides and Document Object</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">3) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Discuss upcoming face to face</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a. </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thursday</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">(1/2 day am)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">IPP extensions</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">JobX</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">b. </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thursday</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">(1/2 day</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">p</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">m)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">SM </FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">4) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Review any comments/issues</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a. </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Handle editorial first</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">b. </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Discuss more involved comments and issues</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">5) </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Next steps</FONT>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Current list of comments.issues (</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Tahoma">10</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Tahoma">/</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Tahoma">02</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Tahoma">/2003</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">):</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Document Object (</FONT><A HREF="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_DOC/wd-ippdoc10-20030908.pdf"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_DOC/wd-ippdoc10-20030908.pdf</FONT></U></A><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Editorial Comments:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">1)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Cover Page Line 26:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The sentence about listing "all" of the attributes defined in other IPP specifications is probably not going to be accurate for very long.....if now..</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 9, line 311:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The sentence should read.... "The semantics of the "document-state..."...(missing "the").</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">3)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 9, line 317-320:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">This paragraph needs to be reworded to state what the spec. is, not what it's proposed to be.</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">4)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 13, line 403:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The Job operatations that MUST NOT have any ..... (remove the word "that" )</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">5)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 14, line 413:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The semantic of Fidelity on a Job are intended..... (The "semantics" of Fidelity....)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">6)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 15, line 446,447,451</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The sentence "For example, such Job Template attributes as "job-priority"...." sounds odd.. (should read "For example, Job Template attributes such as .....) Same comment for line 447 and 451 "Printer MUST NOT copy down any..." (should be "Printer MUST NOT copy any Job Level attributes ...")</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">7)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 21, line 653:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">..it is only an empty job which is.... (recommend: "it is an empty job that is scheduled and...)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">8)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 24, line 777:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">..Document object was submitted...(should be: ...Document object is submitted...)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">9)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 24, line 781:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">..The only differences are that the Set-Job-Attibutes operation is... (should be: ..The only difference is that the ...operation is...)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">10)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 26, line 831,832:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Formatting problem (unnecessary indentation....)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">11)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 26, line 833:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">First sentence worded funny. (suggest: Most Document Description attributes (see...)are NOT settable, i.e., they are defined to be READ-ONLY.)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">12)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 45, line 1258:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">First character space on that line is inadvertently highlighted...</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">13)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 48, line 1305, 1309; Page 51, line 1389;</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Remove the names of the attribute at the beginning of</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">the description. It's both unnecessary and inconsistent</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">with the other attribute descriptions.</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">(There are other descriptive paragraphs with the same problem..Page 58,59</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">14)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 57, line 1571:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">First printed character (') is highlighted for no reason.</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">15)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 65,66,67</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Remove highlighted areas...</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">lines 1776-1778, 1785-1787, 1795-1797, 1830, 1844-1846, 1847-1849. Page 66, line1828 (PrintBasic: 1.0) is in red....</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">15)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 75, line 2221,2224</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Broken reference links.....</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Issues:</FONT> </P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">16)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 14, line 430-431:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">After a strong conformance statement on the client, the printer is required to accept a non-conformant client operation..... (should be an error if the client supplies this attribute in a Doc Creation operation.. and the Printer should be allowed to flag it..)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">17)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 26, line 837-839:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The note that provides guidance for future extensions doesn't belong in a specification, it belongs in the requirements doc of the future extension.....it'll get lost in this spec.... (suggest removing the note)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">18)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 28 Cancel-Document operation (and line 922)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Question/Comment: What happens to the document DATA when a document is cancelled (assuming it's already been sent to the Printer)?</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Line 922 should read ....which only cancels the processing of the document, and doesn't delete the document object itself.....</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">But it still says nothing about the document DATA. If the DATA is kept after a Cancel Document then there may be a security issue for the overly security conscious since this is the only way a client can request a document NOT be processed (then the data hangs around in the print spool for some unknown time). (Cancel Doc is mandatory for Printer, Delete Doc is optional)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">If the Data is not kept, what is the mechanism for the reprocess job operation if the data is expected to be there?</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">JobX (</FONT><A HREF="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030908.pdf"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030908.pdf</FONT></U></A>) </P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Editorial Comments:</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">19)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 13, footnote 5</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Operation is partially italicized....(shouldn't be)</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">20)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 34, line 1051</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Need a little more informative test explaining what these are in addition too.....</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">21)</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Page 37, line 1162</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">the word "PrintBasic:1.0" is in red....</FONT></P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT>22) See page 16 Lines 497 - 500 of the Sept. 8 Draft....</P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT>Action Item: (Tom and Ira): Propose a format for the file......</P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT>Did this get resolved and/or just missed in the final edits?</P>
<P ALIGN=LEFT>Overrides (<A HREF="ftp://www.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_EXC/wd-ippOverride10-20030910.pdf"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF">ftp://www.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_EXC/wd-ippOverride10-20030910.pdf</FONT></U></A>)</P>
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