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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <TITLE>Semantic Model (JobX) teleconference</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>I've down loaded the .pdf for the .doc files as Peter requested for tomorrow's telecon.  I've also put all four in the proper place in the IPP spec hierarchy as well under the new_JOBX arc (but I did not delete them from the Semantic_Model sub-tree):</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.pdf</A></DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.doc</A></DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702-rev.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702-rev.pdf</A></DIV></DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702-rev.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702-rev.doc</A></DIV> <DIV><A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_JOBX/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.doc"></A> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tom</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:PZehler@crt.xerox.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 08:16 To: PWG Semantic Model WG (sm@pwg.org) Cc: 'Claudia Alimpich'; IPP Discussion List (IPP@pwg.org); printing-jobticket@freestandards.org; printing-driver@freestandards.org Subject: SM> Semantic Model (JobX) teleconference </DIV> All, Thursday July 10th at 1pm EDT is the Semantic Model teleconference. This week's Teleconference will be dedicated to IPP JobX.  The document is available on the PWG server at <A href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/Semantic-Model/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/Semantic-Model/wd-ippjobx10-20030702.doc</A> (If someone could convert this to PDF I would appreciate it.  I haven't found my copy of distiller to put on my new system yet.) The teleconference is 2 hours long.  It will be run using phone and Webex. Anyone that does not yet have Webex installed should do that before Thursday.  Information for the phone and Webex are included below.  NOTE: New Dial in number and passcode The agenda for the Semantic Model teleconference is: 1) Discuss the print-quality issue (see included notes below) 2) Discuss the document-xxx-supplied changes in JobX 3) Discuss the output-device resolution Pete PS: Bob let me know if there is a problem hosting Webex. ________________________________________________ Dial in Info: Phone Number:(877) 707-6056 (Phone Number for Xerox Employees: 8*594-0077)  PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 437874# ________________________________________________ webex info: We will also use an on line tool called webex, if you have not used this before, setup up by following the First Time Users instructions. Do this in advance of the meeting. ------------------------- FIRST TIME USERS ------------------------- For fully interactive meetings, including the ability to present your documents and applications, a one-time setup takes less than 10 minutes. Click this URL to set up now: <A href="http://hp.webex.com">http://hp.webex.com</A> Then click New User. ------------------------- On Thursday use: <A href="https://hp.webex.com/join/">https://hp.webex.com/join/</A> Then click join unlisted meeting. Use the info below: ------------------------- Webex MEETING SUMMARY ------------------------- Topic: PWG Semantic Model Date: Thursday, July 10, 2003 Time: 10:00 am, Pacific Daylight Time (GMT -07:00, San Jose) Meeting number: 21366675 Meeting password: pwg_sm1! Host: Bob Taylor (HP) ___________________________________________________ <UL> <UL> <UL> <UL> <A name=_MailAutoSig>Peter Zehler</A> XEROX Xerox Innovation Group Email: PZehler@crt.xerox.com Voice:    (585) 265-8755 FAX:      (585) 422-7961 US Mail: Peter Zehler <UL>         Xerox Corp.         800 Phillips Rd.         M/S 128-25E         Webster NY, 14580-9701</UL></UL></UL></UL></UL> Print Quality Issue: Last Tuesday during the PWG/FSG meeting in Portland we had a discussion about the IPP print-quality attribute and FSG's desire to add two new values, "economy" and "fine", where "economy" is lower than "draft" and "fine" is higher than "high". After some discussion we all pretty much decided that it is not possible to add these new values to the already existing "draft", "normal", and "high" values because of the current definitions of the existing values (high is defined as the highest quality and draft is defined as the lowest quality). It also seemed like what FSG wanted was a way to specify print optimization and not additional levels of print quality. The FSG working group met today, and based on the input from last Tuesday's meeting, we would like to propose the addition of a new attribute, called print-optimize, that is defined as follows:    print-optimize (type2 keyword)       This attribute refines the value specified by the print-quality       attribute.       The standard keyword values are:          'image': optimize for image clarity          'photo': optimize for photo clarity          'text': optimize for text clarity          'text-and-image': optimize for both text and image clarity          'save-toner': optimize for minimal toner usage          'speed': optimize for printing speed We would appreciate your feedback on this proposal including suggestions for additional values. If this proposal looks good, we would like to propose that it be included in the JobX Spec. If the print-optimize attribute is approved by PWG by the end of August, then we can propose that it be added to the JDF 1.2 Spec that is being finalized in early September. Thank you for your time and feedback. Claudia Alimpich IBM Printing Systems Division Boulder CO 303-924-4418 alimpich@us.ibm.com Response to Print Quality Issue: I understand the desire to avoid violating the semantics of the IPP attribute - but adding these enumerations to print-quality does not feel as objectionable to me as splitting a single semantic concept into two different attributes.  If this is the precedent we take for extending the semantic model, I'm worried that we'll end up with an increasingly confusing and complex.  I would rather we take the minor hit and fix the high & draft definitions in the semantic model than create another ~equivalent attribute with a whole bunch of special semantic rules (e.g. - what should the service do if print-quality=high and print-optimize=save-toner?). bt --------------------------------------------------- Bob Taylor                                        Senior Architect                            IPG Strategic Technology Development  Hewlett-Packard Co.       <A href="mailto:bobt@hp.com">mailto:bobt@hp.com</A>                        phone: 360.212.2625/T212.2625                    fax: 208.730-5111                 ---------------------------------------------------   </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>