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All, I agree with Randy that the goals and objectives of the various bodies should not overlap.  The goals and objectives of the TCG HCWG need to be complementary to those of the P2600 and PWG IDS groups. dhw David H. Whitehead Development Engineer Lexmark International, Inc. 859.825.4914 davidatlexmarkdotcom <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%>"Randy Turner" <rturner@amalfisystems.com> Sent by: owner-ids@pwg.org 04/10/09 01:01 AM <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>To</div> <td><STDS-2600@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>cc</div> <td><ids@pwg.org> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right>Subject</div> <td>IDS> minutes from April 8 2009 TCG HCWG charter discussion teleconference</table> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> </table> <tt>Hi All, </tt> <tt>After reading the minutes from the latest TCG HCWG re-chartering discussion, I have the following comment... </tt> <tt>I think, at a minimum, any new charter for the TCG HCWG should be filtered through the goals and objectives of the p2600 work and the PWG-IDS activity to determine any new objectives. </tt> <tt>in other words, </tt> <tt>o1 = set of p2600 goals and objectives (both core standard and protection profiles) o2 = set of PWG IDS goals and objectives (including NEA/TNC + IDS attributes) o3 = The union of o1 and o2 (i.e., o1 U o2) </tt> <tt>o4 = The set of proposed TCG HCWG goals and objectives </tt> <tt>The intersection of o3 and o4 should be the empty set </tt> <tt>Thanks, Randy </tt> <tt>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Smithson" <brian.smithson@RICOH-USA.COM> To: <STDS-2600@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: [2600] minutes from April 8 2009 TCG HCWG charter discussion teleconference </tt> <tt>> Please see the attached meeting minutes from yesterday's teleconference > discussion of the TCG Hardcopy Workgroup charter revision. > > Many thanks to Shah Bhatti for leading the discussion, Seigo Kotani for > acting as interim chair and BoD liaison, Steve Hanna for providing > perspective from the TNC WG, and Lee Farrell for contributing his > excellent notes to the production of these minutes. > > -- > Regards, > Brian Smithson > PM, Security Research > PMP, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA > Advanced Imaging and Network Technologies > Ricoh Americas Corporation > (408)346-4435 > ></tt>