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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div>Hi Dave,<div><br></div><div>I would be *interesting* to hear comments from a broader industry collective, like NEA, but I think it would be a mistake to predicate responses from the broader audience on completing an internal PWG or IDS last call process. </div><div><br></div><div>To paraphrase, I wouldn't make responses from external review necessary to complete last call processes.</div><div><br></div><div>To use Lee's phrase, from a NEA WG priority, we're probably not "on their radar" at the moment - with TNC protocols already deployed, there is some consideration being given to complete the initial NEA docs as soon as possible, so that NEA can "catch up" to the market into which TNC, Cisco, and NAP have already deployed.</div><div><br></div><div>I will ask Steve (Hanna) if he thinks it's appropriate at this juncture to ask the NEA WG to provide comment on our documents. </div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Dave Whitehead wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Lee, Randy,</font> <br> <br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">If I remember correctly, we wanted to present our attribute definitions to some knowledgeable people within the NEA group and solicit feedback. We knew the meeting was coming up and (I think) Randy said he was going and would distribute our document. Basically, we were hoping for feedback before our last call process ended.</font> <br> <br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">dhw</font> <br> <br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">David H. Whitehead<br> Development Engineer<br> Lexmark International, Inc.<br> 859.825.4914<br> davidatlexmarkdotcom</font> <br> <br> <br> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td width="40%"><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><b>"Farrell, Lee" <<a href="mailto:Lee.Farrell@cda.canon.com">Lee.Farrell@cda.canon.com</a>></b> </font> <br><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Sent by: <a href="mailto:owner-ids@pwg.org">owner-ids@pwg.org</a></font><p><font size="1" face="sans-serif">03/13/09 03:18 PM</font> </p></td><td width="59%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">To</font></div> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:ids@pwg.org">ids@pwg.org</a>></font> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">cc</font></div> </td><td> </td></tr><tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div> </td><td><font size="1" face="sans-serif">RE: IDS> FW: [Nea] Starting WGLC for PA-TNC and PB-TNC</font></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <table> <tbody><tr valign="top"> <td> </td><td></td></tr></tbody></table> <br></td></tr></tbody></table> <br> <br><font size="2">Hi Randy,</font> <br><font size="3"> </font> <br><font size="2">At the IDS telecon yesterday, I just got the sense that there was something that people were expecting from the NEA group. Maybe I misunderstood. If the only item is approval of the PA-TNC (with the attributes that were introduced), then I guess we're covered.</font> <br><font size="3"> </font> <br><font size="2">By "on their radar", I was looking for some agenda item referring to the PWG or "printing". Perhaps I was being too explicit in my expectations for their agenda. </font> <br><font size="3"> </font> <br><font size="2">lee</font> <br> <hr> <br> <br><font size="2"><b>From:</b> Randy Turner [<a href="mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com">mailto:rturner@amalfisystems.com</a>] </font> <br><font size="2"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2009 12:05 PM</font> <br><font size="2"><b>To:</b> Farrell, Lee</font> <br><font size="2"><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ids@pwg.org">ids@pwg.org</a></font> <br><font size="2"><b>Subject:</b> Re: IDS> FW: [Nea] Starting WGLC for PA-TNC and PB-TNC</font> <br> <br> <br><font size="3">Hi Lee, </font> <br> <br><font size="3">If you have something to discuss, you can bring it up during the Agenda bashing session - I think we've already made our proposal and portions of it were introduced into the PA-TNC document in a previous draft - I'm not sure what you mean by "on their radar". </font> <br> <br><font size="3">Randy</font> <br> <br> <br><font size="3">On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Farrell, Lee wrote:</font> <br> <br><font size="2">The NEA is holding their meeting</font><font size="3"> </font><font size="2">on the 23rd, and the agenda is focusing on a review of comments on the latest two draft documents:</font> <br> <br><font size="2">Agenda for IETF 74 NEA WG meeting</font> <br><font size="2">=================================</font> <br> <br><font size="2">Date: Monday, March 23, 2009</font> <br><font size="2">Time: 1300-1500 PDT (GMT-0700)</font> <br><font size="2">WG Charter: </font><a href="http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/nea-charter.html"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/nea-charter.html</u></font></a> <br><font size="2">WG Tools: </font><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/wg/nea"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://tools.ietf.org/wg/nea</u></font></a> <br><font size="2">WG email: </font><a href="mailto:nea@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>nea@ietf.org</u></font></a> <br> <br><font size="2">1300 Administrivia</font> <br><font size="2"> Blue Sheets</font> <br><font size="2"> Jabber & Minute scribes</font> <br><font size="2"> Agenda bashing</font> <br><font size="2">1305 WG Status</font> <br><font size="2">1310 Discuss PB-TNC (recent changes and WGLC comments)</font> <br><font size="2"> </font><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-03.txt"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-03.txt</u></font></a> <br><font size="2">1400 Discuss PA-TNC (recent changes and WGLC comments)</font> <br><font size="2"> </font><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-03.txt"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-03.txt</u></font></a> <br><font size="2">1450 Review and Revise Milestones</font> <br><font size="2">1500 Adjourn</font> <br> <br><font size="2">What information exactly is it that the IDS group would like to have discussed by and/or proposed to this group? It does not appear that they have us on their radar, nor am I aware of any recent communication from the IDS group to them.</font> <br> <br><font size="2">lee</font> <br> <br><font size="2">-----Original Message-----</font> <br><font size="2">From: </font><a href="mailto:nea-bounces@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>nea-bounces@ietf.org</u></font></a><font size="2"> [</font><a href="mailto:nea-bounces@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>mailto:nea-bounces@ietf.org</u></font></a><font size="2">] On Behalf Of Stephen Hanna</font> <br><font size="2">Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 1:29 PM</font> <br><font size="2">To: </font><a href="mailto:nea@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>nea@ietf.org</u></font></a> <br><font size="2">Subject: [Nea] Starting WGLC for PA-TNC and PB-TNC</font> <br> <br><font size="2">New versions of PA-TNC and PB-TNC have been posted.</font> <br><font size="2">These include all changes for which there was WG consensus. All open issues are now closed. The new documents are available at these URLs:</font> <br> <br><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-03.txt"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-03.txt</u></font></a> <br><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-03.txt"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-03.txt</u></font></a> <br> <br><font size="2">Therefore, I am starting a Working Group Last Call on these documents. Please review them and send any comments or questions to the </font><a href="mailto:nea@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>nea@ietf.org</u></font></a><font size="2"> email list.</font> <br> <br><font size="2">This Working Group Last Call will close at 5 PM EST on Friday, March 20, 2009.</font> <br> <br><font size="2">We have chosen a two week WGLC period so that we can have all comments received and ready to discuss before the NEA meeting at IETF 74. However, if you feel that two weeks is not enough time, please email the NEA list and we will consider an extension.</font> <br> <br><font size="2">In any case, now is the time for all NEA WG participants to perform a careful review of these specifications and raise any comments, concerns, corrections, or questions that you may have. Please take the time to do so before the end of WGLC.</font> <br> <br><font size="2">Thanks,</font> <br> <br><font size="2">Steve</font> <br><font size="2">_______________________________________________</font> <br><font size="2">Nea mailing list</font> <br><a href="mailto:Nea@ietf.org"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>Nea@ietf.org</u></font></a> <br><a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea"><font size="2" color="blue"><u>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea</u></font></a> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>