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<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <base href="x-msg://239/"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=Section1> NIST is a <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> agency and, as so, work products are not copyrighted (I believe by law).  In fact their top page on cloud computing has the following statement.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> “This material is public domain although attribution to NIST is requested. It may be freely duplicated and translated.”<o:p></o:p>  So maybe we should ask a different question.   Do we want to (very) tightly align our definition with content from NIST?  I vote yes because it shows coherence/alignment/??? with existing or other organization. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Note that the NIST definition and the one I propose are very high level and interpretation for “Imaging” is what is are address.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Glen<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> p.s. If I can find the contact information I will send a note.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> gwp<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: Petrie, Glen Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:45 PM To: Petrie, Glen; Michael Sweet Cc: cloud@pwg.org Subject: RE: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Sorry Mike,  I skipped over the part where you like the substance.   So I will send a note NIST folks.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Petrie, Glen Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:41 PM To: Michael Sweet Cc: cloud@pwg.org Subject: RE: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Your right about the “copying” but that can be addressed at a later date.  For the moment; is this the type of definition that was intended?  If not, can you or others suggest a couple to sentence on a definition?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I understand your point on ‘Imaging’ versus ‘Printing/Printer’; but can we put together a Print/Printing first at then see how to scope it for Imaging?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Glen<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:15 PM To: Petrie, Glen Cc: cloud@pwg.org Subject: Re: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Glen,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> While I like the substance of the definition, I am uneasy about copying their words like this - it would be good to contact the authors to get their written permission so that we credit them appropriately in the cloud model spec.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> Also, since we *are* doing Cloud Imaging, we probably want the definition to use Cloud Imaging instead of Cloud Printing and Imaging Device instead of Printer.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> Thanks!<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div> On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing: 0px'> <div link=blue vlink=blue> <div> Based on the article referenced below I modified in an attempt to create a definition for cloud printing.   I thought it could be reviewed to see if could be useful definition.   In most cases, I literal changed “computing” to “printing” (or printer).  I also added a few print related items.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> glen<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> <div> From: <a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a> [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:47 AM To: <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a>; Ira McDonald Subject: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <u1:p></u1:p> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p></o:p> </div> <div><u1:p></u1:p> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Smithson <<a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a>> Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM Subject: NIST cloud defs To: Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> To share at the meeting, if it's useful: <a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc" target="_blank">http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc</a> -- Regards, Brian Smithson PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA Security Research, Planning Advanced Customer Technologies Ricoh Americas Corporation <a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a> <a href="tel:%28408%29346-4435">(408)346-4435</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> --  This message has been scanned for viruses and  dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/">MailScanner</a>, and is  believed to be clean.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> --  This message has been scanned for viruses and  dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/">MailScanner</a>, and is  believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a> <a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud</a><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div><span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; 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