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<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <base href="x-msg://239/">  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space'> <div class=Section1> Michael,  I been investigating “Cloud Imaging” on the WWW.   Beyond referring to actual imaging of clouds; it appears that Cloud Imaging is associated with actual “images” (photo, picture, …) and not with printing (scanning, copying).  I am beginning to wonder if Cloud Imaging is really the correct title for the PWG cloud activities.   Even changing to Cloud Imaging Devices will still cause ambiguities with “cameras”.  Actually, going back to Cloud Printing would be more identifiable by most technical people.  Anyone who will use PWG specification would understand it applies to MFDs or to printer of any size or complexity.  (Cloud MFD sound weird and Cloud Hardcopy is almost as bad.) (Non-technical people (users) don’t even know what PWG stands for.)  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So, what about Cloud Scan and Cloud Copy.  Can’t we just us these separate name.  Cloud scan, beyond some communication and security issue (which are common is a lot of Cloud things), can be considered independent of Cloud Print even if done by an MFD.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In summary, maybe the Cloud naming and activities should follow what is being done in the MFD group.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Glen<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 12:15 PM To: Petrie, Glen Cc: cloud@pwg.org Subject: Re: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Glen,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> While I like the substance of the definition, I am uneasy about copying their words like this - it would be good to contact the authors to get their written permission so that we credit them appropriately in the cloud model spec.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> Also, since we *are* doing Cloud Imaging, we probably want the definition to use Cloud Imaging instead of Cloud Printing and Imaging Device instead of Printer.<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <div> Thanks!<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div> On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p></o:p> <span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing: 0px'> <div link=blue vlink=blue> <div> Based on the article referenced below I modified in an attempt to create a definition for cloud printing.   I thought it could be reviewed to see if could be useful definition.   In most cases, I literal changed “computing” to “printing” (or printer).  I also added a few print related items.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.doc</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/cloud/white/CloudPrintingDef_V01_-_A_Suggestion.pdf</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> glen<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> <div> From: <a href="mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org">cloud-bounces@pwg.org</a> [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:47 AM To: <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a>; Ira McDonald Subject: [Cloud] Fwd: NIST cloud defs<o:p></o:p> <u1:p></u1:p></div> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <o:p></o:p> </div> <u1:p></u1:p> <div> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Smithson <<a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a>> Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM Subject: NIST cloud defs To: Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> To share at the meeting, if it's useful: <a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc" target="_blank">http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SNS/cloud-computing/cloud-def-v15.doc</a> -- Regards, Brian Smithson PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA Security Research, Planning Advanced Customer Technologies Ricoh Americas Corporation <a href="mailto:bsmithson@ricohsv.com">bsmithson@ricohsv.com</a> <a href="tel:%28408%29346-4435">(408)346-4435</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> <div> --  This message has been scanned for viruses and  dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/">MailScanner</a>, and is  believed to be clean.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p> </div> --  This message has been scanned for viruses and  dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/">MailScanner</a>, and is  believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list <a href="mailto:cloud@pwg.org">cloud@pwg.org</a> <a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud</a><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div><span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing: 0px'> <div> __________________________________________________<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </div> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/">MailScanner</a>, and is believed to be clean. </body> </html>