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<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><base href="x-msg://622/"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I suggest that our past discussions have been concerned with defining what we consider cloud printing to be, its requirements, and what might be a good solution to those requirements. Although this is a logical approach,  the fact that we (as the PWG)  evidently have little say in actual implementations has led at least some to suggest that the PWG withdraw from consideration of cloud printing entirely. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Like </span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sarin, I also would like to see a relatively standard approach for could printing identified, encouraging interoperability with product differentiation in more creative areas than base protocols. With apologies to Sarin and others that look to the PWG to provide such leadership, cloud printing is so tied up with things outside of PWG purview that there is little evidence that we can dictate much about implementation. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What I am suggesting is that, by understanding the various implementations that call themselves cloud printing, and perhaps by working with those that define these implementations, we may be able to encourage the use of PWG semantics and even, perhaps, improve the potential for interoperability among different implementations. Being more concise with respect to your outline, I suggest that the subjects you have identified be discussed with respect to as many different implementations as we can identify, not with respect to what the best solutions are. This would then be a prelude to actual PWG Cloud Printing activity rather than, as been suggested, a final summary prior to dropping the subject. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I recognize that what I suggest is a major activity and not likely to be completed in that one February session. Rather, it is an alternate approach than the one we have been taking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Bill Wagner</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cloud-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 21, 2011 10:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> cloud@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cloud] Draft agenda/slide outline for February Cloud Printing BOF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:02 AM, William Wagner wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Michael,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Although this is a great outline, it may give the impression that the PWG were intending to develop a Cloud Printing specification;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is more my intent to lead the discussions to a decision within the group about a) whether we intend to write any Cloud Printing specifications/recommendations/whitepapers/whatever and b) what the future of the BOF sessions are.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyways, most of the content is a review of our previous BOF sessions; the protocol stuff is the only new info, and that is an overview of protocols that are used for existing cloud/cloud-like services.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(and sorry if I didn't make my intent clear...)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>________________________________________________________________________<br>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div><br />-- <br />This message has been scanned for viruses and <br />dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br />believed to be clean. </body></html>